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lyx2no
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Message 1 of 33 (563373)
06-04-2010 3:29 PM


One might think its not hard to do, but they’d be wrong. I should’nt have to recount the evidence that your worldveiw prevents you from seeing. Go back and reread this thread where I sited expeerts that agree with me. Are you saying that are wrong two. Who should I believe; you or them? your going to have to show me a real world example of it not happening to prove it can be done.
I have a website saying it isn’t. You keep demanding explanations of the obvious, yet have supplied no evidence in this thread proving me wrong.
This is about the best I can do, and every single word feels like plagerism. Think of how hard our expert fizzacysts and jennetacysts have to work to fill a dozen posts not establishing even there most basic premisis.
Here’s the challenge. See if you can do it.
I FAIL.

"Mom! Ban Ki-moon made a non-binding resolution at me." Mohmoud Ahmadinejad

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Message 3 of 33 (563382)
06-04-2010 4:30 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by nwr
06-04-2010 3:51 PM


You can’t just ignore the emperical evidence I’ve provided. You acuse me of cherry pickiu=ing but refuse to show me where Im not agreeing with moder scienctic thought.
y of those were
is that the best you can do, ab honomim.

"Mom! Ban Ki-moon made a non-binding resolution at me." Mohmoud Ahmadinejad

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Message 5 of 33 (563407)
06-04-2010 6:59 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by nwr
06-04-2010 3:51 PM


Double Fail
That I do explain myself is a direct failure of this threads intent. Yesterday Catholic Scientist posted this:
I dunno, man... you seem awfully defensive. A real kid would be all, like, yeahs, whatev, I don't have to prove I'm a kid to you.
And it got me thinking, Yes, I do. Have to explain myself that is. When someone asks me Why do you believe that? I find myself answering why I believe that. Not that I do believe it, or you can’t prove me wrong, or some other such; but why I believe that which I stated I believe.
At EvC Forum I daily observe the methods of valid models of argument used by most posters, and could reproduce most of them on demand. Yet, when I try to develop an argument in the style of one of our splendid natural filosofers I feel as if I’m a doing a caricature rather then trying to copy a style of argument.
For days now, the great ‘causemologist, tesla, has been repeating Follow the math of which he presents none, Don’t ignore the what science tells you" which seems to be a secret, and Then show me an edgeless vacuum. as if it were meaningful statements.
I can’t do it at all, while they seem to do it effortlessly.
Is anyone else unable to mimic the argumentary style of any of our good friends who have less then stellar debating skills?
I'd like to see everyone's best effort at producing a tesla quality* argument.
*how would you like to be the eponym for that?

"Mom! Ban Ki-moon made a non-binding resolution at me." Mohmoud Ahmadinejad

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Message 17 of 33 (563512)
06-05-2010 1:35 PM


Thank you all
Firstly, sorry for the hit and run, but I’ll be stuck with this for a month or so. I don’t want any of you to think I’m disinterested in my own thread.
Secondly, can any of you take the analysis a bit deeper? I can’t quite explain what I mean by that. If I could I’d be half way to having done it myself.
When I copy one of the able posters I feel as if I’m developing another tool of the trade.
Bluejay, when you did IaJ, did you feel yourself doing a parody of IaJ. If you were to do a Dr. Adequate something we should all do more of would you feel as if you were doing a parody.
I’m I making any sense?
I’m suffering from confusion right about now and am looking to break the blockage.
Once again, thanks to all.

"Mom! Ban Ki-moon made a non-binding resolution at me." Mohmoud Ahmadinejad

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lyx2no
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Message 18 of 33 (563513)
06-05-2010 1:36 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by cavediver
06-04-2010 7:05 PM


Re: Double Fail
Hi cavediver
I like Coyotes solution in 10 better.

"Mom! Ban Ki-moon made a non-binding resolution at me." Mohmoud Ahmadinejad

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Message 19 of 33 (563514)
06-05-2010 1:37 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by hotjer
06-04-2010 7:22 PM


Hellow nwr
I was wondering whether you tried to see if folks could see through the mud and figure out if you were talking as a evo or creo.
I was, but when push came to shove, I couldn’t not explain myself.
I cannot kiss; that is the humour of it; but, adieu.
Nym: Henry V; Act ii, Scene.

"Mom! Ban Ki-moon made a non-binding resolution at me." Mohmoud Ahmadinejad

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Message 20 of 33 (563515)
06-05-2010 1:39 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by Modulous
06-04-2010 7:40 PM


Re: How's my gibberish?
Hi Modulous
That is so good that I don’t even know what it means. Is there actually a point in there? When composing it did you feel as if you were copying a style or parodying a style? I can parody not as good as that but I feel skeezy trying to pass it off as legit.

"Mom! Ban Ki-moon made a non-binding resolution at me." Mohmoud Ahmadinejad

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Message 21 of 33 (563516)
06-05-2010 1:40 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by Coyote
06-04-2010 7:48 PM


Re: How's my gibberish?
Thank you, Coyote, it’s always nice to know the names of our foibles.
Poe’s Law could explain why I’m incapable of coping it without feeling like I’m parodying it. My brain is immediately routing it to my funny bone.

"Mom! Ban Ki-moon made a non-binding resolution at me." Mohmoud Ahmadinejad

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Message 22 of 33 (563517)
06-05-2010 1:41 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by Buzsaw
06-04-2010 8:53 PM


Re: Who bought lyx beer?
Hi Buzsaw
Caution: Avoid where ever lyx2no's been.
Just like you to avoid your own advice, but a beautiful example of what I’m getting at. You get a 5 rating.
And I roundly second your welcome to ooh-child.

"Mom! Ban Ki-moon made a non-binding resolution at me." Mohmoud Ahmadinejad

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Message 25 of 33 (563779)
06-06-2010 7:49 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by Dr Adequate
06-05-2010 1:45 PM


It wasn’t your capacity for tangents honest.

"Mom! Ban Ki-moon made a non-binding resolution at me." Mohmoud Ahmadinejad

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Message 26 of 33 (563782)
06-06-2010 7:55 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by Modulous
06-06-2010 6:28 AM


Most Excellent Gibberish?
The theme was: My words are merely too cunning for you to understand them
I can’t argue with that now, can I?
I find it difficult to copy anybody's style
I’m not just talking about the straight out copying of someone else’s style, nor as mockery. The Effective Posting Styles (And Suggested Improvements) thread suggests that different styles work best for and on certain individuals. So having multiple styles of argument at ones disposal should be an asset. Is there a group of people that Teslaesque arguments work on? I do think Coyote hit the nail on the head with Poe's law as to why they are indistinguishable from parody.

"Mom! Ban Ki-moon made a non-binding resolution at me." Mohmoud Ahmadinejad

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