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Apothecus
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Message 3 of 49 (558912)
05-05-2010 1:42 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Larni
05-05-2010 6:45 AM


Hey Larni.
Crazy, just plain crazy. And sad, too.
Cognitive dissonance at its finest.
Is it then pointless arguing with right wing people because any evidence that is presented that is counter to their beliefs will actually strengthen them?
Yes, I think, up to a point. Like the study says, it depends upon where an individual lies on the scale of conservativity, regardless of intelligence, it seems. I'd assume, if given two people of the same level of conservatism but differing levels of education and/or intelligence, the more highly educated individual would be found to reject prior convictions versus his counterpart. In general, at least.
As I'm sure we've all seen (in this forum as well as in real life), rationality and reason seems to fall by the wayside in this, ah, subset of society. Pity.
Have a good one.

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Apothecus
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Posts: 275
From: CA USA
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Message 7 of 49 (558924)
05-05-2010 2:57 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by slevesque
05-05-2010 2:22 PM


Hey Slevesque.
But it does not show that doing the same thing with a reverse example aimed more at liberal and left people would not show the exact same thing.
I'd agree that it may be that the more moderate (neither right nor left) a person is, the more likely she'll consider amending a position if that position was shown to be untenable. Seems like a fine assumption, anyway.
So, think of the most liberal friend you have. Can you illustrate a scenario in which this friend would exhibit the same characteristics as the "study" in question portrays for conservatism?

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Apothecus
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Message 24 of 49 (558972)
05-05-2010 10:01 PM
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05-05-2010 3:29 PM


Hey Slevesque.
Well, for my part I can't imagine my conservative friends to have such a behavior.
I'm not sure you read me correctly. I said to think of your most liberal friend and then cite an example.
Or maybe I'm not reading you correctly.

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Apothecus
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Message 47 of 49 (559091)
05-06-2010 2:40 PM
Reply to: Message 37 by Hyroglyphx
05-06-2010 10:03 AM


Re: Blinded by bias
I know people who refuse to believe that Obama has contributed more to the national debt than any U.S. president in history (even more than the bloated whore, Bush, and that's after adjusting for inflation), even when clear evidence proves it.
I just can't understand how someone can be so opinionated about, well, anything, to be unable to recant even after offered evidence to the contrary. For example, my head explodes frequently when viewing certain posts on this and other message forums, especially when relating to something as contentious as creation. Although the internet allows for a high degree of anonymity, personally I'd experience a bit of discomfort if sticking with a standpoint which has been proven wrong results in a loss of personal credibility. But that's just me.

"My own suspicion is that the Universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but queerer than we can suppose. J.B.S Haldane 1892-1964

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