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xavierkress
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Message 30 of 39 (556760)
04-20-2010 11:53 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by killinghurts
04-18-2010 11:20 PM


What grounds does Bible claim God created them.
Well I think we are drastically missing some major explanations here on the formation of stars.
Is there evidence that any star we have seen in scientifically observed time of a star being created in the first place? Is it true that we've only seen stars die and not be created?
Also let's go back a bit further and explain the Big Bang theory, I've heard Steven Hawkings speak of a black hole or a big mass of something exploding and everything coming into being from that mass. So where did that mass come from in the first place or where did that blackhole form from in the first place? I mean you need time and space and matter to allow a blackhole to gain mass or eat mass right?
I remember hearing Steven speaking saying that these energy particles were feeding the blackhole, but where is this energy coming from that's feeding the blackhole to start the events of the Big Bang to allow for the formation of the known universe(s)?
Just some thoughts to really delve into this subject. Very interesting comments so far, but it would seem some are setup as strawmen. You have to explain the beginning and where the initial mass or blackhole came from in the first place, who or what created that? Can we deny in any true evidence that God did not create everything and then once created set things into motion to act in it's own accord? Look at man, he was created out of something from someone or thing and then started living and making his/her existence from his/her own accord.
Just some thoughts would like to hear your opinions on it and also some backing scientific observed evidence of these things.

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xavierkress
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Message 32 of 39 (556768)
04-21-2010 12:55 AM
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04-21-2010 12:04 AM


Re: What grounds does Bible claim God created them.
Is there evidence that any star we have seen in scientifically observed time of a star being created in the first place? Is it true that we've only seen stars die and not be created?
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yes
Explain a bit more of "yes" and to which question and what scientific observance are you speaking of? It's like asking me, "Can you prove that God exists and show me proof" and I just answer Yes, he does exist.
Can we deny in any true evidence that God did not create everything and then once created set things into motion to act in it's own accord?
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That's called god of the gaps mate. Can you deny that the FSM didn't do it? I think He did.
Define FSM please as I haven't heard the acronym before. Just because God put things into motion doesn't mean He just sits there and doesn't do anything now. There are plenty of prophecies within the Bible that have come true and none so far that have proven to be false. Archeologists have gone out to disprove the Bible only to find they are unable and usually come back believers in the Bible.
Look at man, he was created out of something from someone or thing and then started living and making his/her existence from his/her own accord.
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Man was most definitely not "created" my friend.
Must explain a bit more here. Isn't that what the primodial soup theory is about? out of this soup man formed after several generations of other forms were created until we arrived at this one? And what's the ratio of probabilities say of first two human's being developed at the same time of opposite sexes and perfectly developed to meet the needs of the other to reproduce?
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