Marxism

Yeah, I thought that you'd have to snivel out this nonsense eventually.No, the reason that people laugh at your insanity is not because they're posters on EvC, it's because they're sane.You can put this to the test. Ask the next ten people that you meet the following question: Let me know if anyone says yes.

But we are just talking about what words mean. So if everyone disagrees with you, then you're wrong. If you want to say that there is some "absolute principle" that means that the word "elephant" means "lawnmower", then you are wrong. "Elephant" means elephant, and "stealing" means stealing. Stealing is unlawfully depriving someone of their property. That's what stealing means. You don't get to change it just because it would suit your political ideology for it to mean something else.

Perhaps that should be the last post that you ever make on this forum.It seems to sum it up.

Yes it is. If everyone thinks that the word "dog" means dog, then you don't get to say that it really means cat.Words do in fact mean exactly what people think that they mean. That's how language works.In the same way, stealing means taking someone's property by methods which are illegal. That's what it means. It isn't more or less stealing if you use the money to help the poor. What you do with the money doesn't make it more or less theft. You continue to be funny.

Why are you raving about "postmodernism"? But my point was that you are not being mocked because there is something special about the people who post on EvC. You are being mocked because almost everyone would find your opinions contemptible, pathetic, and disgusting.

You are, of course, a liar, and everyone reading this thread knows that you are a liar.

Where the "objective" meaning of stealing is something that a mad person has made up in her head.

No, no, no, you haven't got it at all.Wheter or not taxation is stealing has nothing to do with taxation, as such. It's stealing if Faith doesn't like the purposes to which the tax revenues are applied.The amount of money the government takes from you doesn't matter. What matters is whether or not Faith likes the way it's spent.Yeah, I thought we lived in a democracy too. But it turns out that we live in a Faithocracy, and that anything Faith doesn't like is a crime, no matter what the law actually says.Either that or Faith is insane.

Oh my ...OK, for once I'm speechless. Fortunately, it isn't actually necessary for me to say anything.

Not only are you a liar, but everyone reading this thread knows, for certain, without any doubt, that you are a liar.

What's the opposite of the idiom "speak for yourself"? You do get something. You get welfare.I don't.Yet you denounce it as theft, and I don't.

No.It's not stealing because it's not unlawfully depriving someone of their property, which is what stealing means.

OK, let's amend it to "not telling the truth".I was speaking as though she was doing it deliberately, but I am coming round to the conclusion that her behavior is indeed the product of a mental defect over which she has no control.

Remember that Faith, perhaps uniquely amongst the disputants on this thread, is directly benefiting from welfare. Faith is on welfare. We don't need to present it to her as an abstraction --- she is living off your money. That is what she denounces as "stealing". Abstract morality doesn't come in to it, it's what she's actually doing.Your money. Her pocket.

Then feel free to stop. No-one's forcing you to do this. No-one's holding a gun to your head and making you put your hands in my pockets and take my money out of my pockets and put it into yours. You have a free choice.But instead you prefer to go on doing this and to go on self-righteously denouncing what you yourself are doing as "stealing".This, I think, takes hypocrisy to a whole new level.