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kbertsche
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Message 3 of 27 (553481)
04-03-2010 1:35 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Buzsaw
04-03-2010 9:12 AM


As you know, the traditional belief is that Jesus was crucified on Friday and raised Sunday morning before dawn. I've seen some who claim a Thursday crucifixion. You are the first I've seen to claim Wednesday.
Many NT passages say that Jesus would be raised "on the third day." For example:
NET Bible writes:
Matt. 16:21 From that time on Jesus began to show his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things at the hands of the elders, chief priests, and experts in the law, and be killed, and on the third day be raised.
Matt. 17:23 They will kill him, and on the third day he will be raised. And they became greatly distressed.
Matt. 20:19 and will turn him over to the Gentiles to be mocked and flogged severely and crucified. Yet on the third day, he will be raised.
Luke 9:22 saying, The Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders, chief priests, and experts in the law, and be killed, and on the third day be raised.
Luke 18:33 They will flog him severely and kill him. Yet on the third day he will rise again.
Luke 24:7 that the Son of Man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and on the third day rise again.
Luke 24:46 and said to them, Thus it stands written that the Christ would suffer and would rise from the dead on the third day,
Acts 10:40 but God raised him up on the third day and caused him to be seen,
1Cor. 15:4 and that he was buried, and that he was raised on the third day according to the scriptures,
For an illustration of how this phrase "on the third day" was used, look at what Jesus said in Luke 13:32:
NET Bible writes:
Luke 13:32 But he said to them, Go and tell that fox, ‘Look, I am casting out demons and performing healings today and tomorrow, and on the third day I will complete my work.
According to this verse, it seems that the traditional Friday crucifixion fits NT usage of the term "the third day". He is crucified on Friday, in the tomb the next day, and raised on the third day.

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kbertsche
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Message 11 of 27 (553648)
04-04-2010 1:48 PM
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04-03-2010 2:52 PM


Re: Tradition Problem
quote:
Matthew 12:40
American Standard Version :
quote:
.......for as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the whale; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Where's the third night?
Yes, a literal interpretation of this passage conflicts with the NT usage of "the third day." Maybe the Scriptures are inconsistent, or maybe the wording in the Jonah passage is a figure of speech. I vote for the latter.

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kbertsche
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Message 20 of 27 (553937)
04-05-2010 8:14 PM
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04-05-2010 1:21 AM


Re: Tradition Problem
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3) He rises sometime on Sunday thus for part of Sunday he is in the ground. Day 3. Where does it day he was interred for three whole days?
I believe the "three whole days" idea comes only from a literalistic reading of the Jonah references. The position of the OP is that this somehow overrides the references to being raised on the third day.

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