Did God say it, or did you say it?

Hi Kapyong,i noticed your bible.org are focusing on the word 'is'really they should be focusing on the greek expression 'god-breathed'This is an expression similar to one found at Psalms 33:6 "by the word of God the heavens themselves were made, and by the spirit [or breath] of his mouth all their army.Paul was saying that the holy scriptures (yes he was refering to the OT) were 'God-Breathed' this means that God brought them into existence thru his spirit in the same way he brought the universe into existence. So they are not the work simply of men, but were directed works by God.God is the arcitect, men are simply the laborers.Now i dont beleive the critics who claim Paul did not write the books of timothy, or that they were written in the 2nd century, so im not going to comment on that.

i certainly didnt describe it as unattainable.If you get your water from a clean source, the water will be clean. If you get your water from a dirty source, it will be dirty.God always provides an avenue to understanding. You just have to find the avenue he uses.

you test it.

You study the bible, you find out what its message is, you learn what Gods purpose is. Then, based on your understanding thus far you consider any teachings/doctrines in light of the original meaning of the language used, you compare that to the context of the passage, you corroborate that with other passages that discuss the same subject and after doing all that you should be able to determine if the teaching you've learnt is true or not.

quite right. If im giving my own opinion, then i'm expanding which is definately not Gods words.But this is what happens when people start asking questions that the bible does not provide an answer to. They have to speculate. Now I dont mind them doing that so long as they let people know they are speculating or giving their own opinion. Here you are asking a question to a subject which is not mentioned in the bible. This is going to cause me to speculate... just warning you in advance.
God did not say "I did not use evolution" but i'm going to 'speculate' that he did not use it based on what he DID say.The genesis account tells us that God 'created' living things according to their kinds. He first made the sea creatures 'according to their kinds' . Nowhere does genesis say that evolution was a part of the process. Nowhere does it say that God made a living organism that slowly became a multitude of other creatures and eventually turned into the flying creatures and the land animals.So there is no way im going to attribute this idea of evolution to Gods creations. According to Genesis he made them whole. He made them male and female which indicates, not evolution, but creation. yes this is true. But you have to understand that when people start asking quesitons about things not mentioned in the bible, then a little speculation on those subjects is required to answer the questions.Perhaps it would be best for believers to just not answer such quesitons...but this means then that only those who are non believers will be speculating on the bible...a book that they generally do not understand and know little about. I think believers would rather speculatate in order to defend the bible rather then allow others to rubbish it. (i'm not saying you are doing that btw)Edited by Peg, : No reason given.