abiogenesis

Do you have any idea how new scientific studies work? You seem to be under the impression that ANYTHING can be labeled science and be awarded funding. NO!
All new ideas must first have some preliminary research that is done pro-bono by whatever person/group is doing the research. They then must present their findings to another group whom will provide money (normally a grant) to do extensive research. The research is conducted, findings are found, data is presented to a group of peers. The peers see that it is legitimate. IT"S SCIENCE!Here's what ID wants: There is a hypothesis that life is too complex to occur naturally. Any study (ONE has been done....ONE) to substantiate the hypothesis is refuted and shown to be in errror. This is not a valid hypothesis. Start over, do more research. (hint: science seeks to prove itself WRONG. Not prove other shit wrong).So, where is the valid research ID has done to even TRY and be science?

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"Some people think God is an outsized, light-skinned male with a long white beard, sitting on a throne somewhere up there in the sky, busily tallying the fall of every sparrow. Othersfor example Baruch Spinoza and Albert Einsteinconsidered God to be essentially the sum total of the physical laws which describe the universe. I do not know of any compelling evidence for anthropomorphic patriarchs controlling human destiny from some hidden celestial vantage point, but it would be madness to deny the existence of physical laws."-Carl Sagan

I can't believe I didn't catch this when I first replied (thanks Coyote)What, exactly, are Atheists beliefs? You do know that atheists are called as such because they don't believe in god, right? The term "atheists beliefs" is somewhat oxymoronic.

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"Some people think God is an outsized, light-skinned male with a long white beard, sitting on a throne somewhere up there in the sky, busily tallying the fall of every sparrow. Othersfor example Baruch Spinoza and Albert Einsteinconsidered God to be essentially the sum total of the physical laws which describe the universe. I do not know of any compelling evidence for anthropomorphic patriarchs controlling human destiny from some hidden celestial vantage point, but it would be madness to deny the existence of physical laws."-Carl Sagan

Do you think SETI is it's own scientific classification? you seem to be putting SETI (research institute) in the same category as Biology, Chemistry, Astronomy etc. SETI is a group that hopes to find life in the cosmos. You, too, can download and install SETI on your home PC in order to help in the effort.What are you two on about with SETI? What is your gripe with it? Are you afraid we just might not be alone? Will that make us not-so-special? Did you bother looking? Here is a start: Peer Reviewed Journal Publications
and Other Recent Articles on The Society for Planetary SETI ResearchpFirst, show me a science textbook that "teaches" SETI. Again, you astoundedly have no clue as to what SETI is, apparently. That's because "Darwinism" is a buzz word for creo-tards. You will not find anyone trying to prove "Newtonism" wrong either, or "Einsteinism".

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"Some people think God is an outsized, light-skinned male with a long white beard, sitting on a throne somewhere up there in the sky, busily tallying the fall of every sparrow. Othersfor example Baruch Spinoza and Albert Einsteinconsidered God to be essentially the sum total of the physical laws which describe the universe. I do not know of any compelling evidence for anthropomorphic patriarchs controlling human destiny from some hidden celestial vantage point, but it would be madness to deny the existence of physical laws."-Carl Sagan"On a personal note I think he's the greatest wrestler ever. He's better than Lou Thesz, Gorgeous George -- you name it."-The Hulkster on Nature Boy Ric Flair

How does one "practice atheism"? Is there an atheist church I don't yet know about? An atheist bible? Man, I really am out of the loop here.

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"Some people think God is an outsized, light-skinned male with a long white beard, sitting on a throne somewhere up there in the sky, busily tallying the fall of every sparrow. Othersfor example Baruch Spinoza and Albert Einsteinconsidered God to be essentially the sum total of the physical laws which describe the universe. I do not know of any compelling evidence for anthropomorphic patriarchs controlling human destiny from some hidden celestial vantage point, but it would be madness to deny the existence of physical laws."-Carl Sagan"On a personal note I think he's the greatest wrestler ever. He's better than Lou Thesz, Gorgeous George -- you name it."-The Hulkster on Nature Boy Ric Flair

Surely you read the entire site, yes? The textbooks you are referring to are their own. Their own curriculum. Yep. buzz-words.

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"Some people think God is an outsized, light-skinned male with a long white beard, sitting on a throne somewhere up there in the sky, busily tallying the fall of every sparrow. Othersfor example Baruch Spinoza and Albert Einsteinconsidered God to be essentially the sum total of the physical laws which describe the universe. I do not know of any compelling evidence for anthropomorphic patriarchs controlling human destiny from some hidden celestial vantage point, but it would be madness to deny the existence of physical laws."-Carl Sagan"On a personal note I think he's the greatest wrestler ever. He's better than Lou Thesz, Gorgeous George -- you name it."-The Hulkster on Nature Boy Ric Flair

Good. So your bible is just a book about christianity. Thanks for clearing that up.

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"Some people think God is an outsized, light-skinned male with a long white beard, sitting on a throne somewhere up there in the sky, busily tallying the fall of every sparrow. Othersfor example Baruch Spinoza and Albert Einsteinconsidered God to be essentially the sum total of the physical laws which describe the universe. I do not know of any compelling evidence for anthropomorphic patriarchs controlling human destiny from some hidden celestial vantage point, but it would be madness to deny the existence of physical laws."-Carl Sagan"On a personal note I think he's the greatest wrestler ever. He's better than Lou Thesz, Gorgeous George -- you name it."-The Hulkster on Nature Boy Ric Flair