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Author Topic:   The problem with creationism and god
Edmund352
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Message 18 of 109 (535889)
11-18-2009 3:28 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by cavediver
10-18-2009 8:03 AM


The Christian God is not a selfish being, he only gets and deserves his praise and adoration. The Greeks and the Romans( and other religions) were the ones who made their Gods corrupt.
But if God would be corrupt and would live exactly like us then were is their perfection?
On the subject of complex design. How can something be too complex to have a designer, God is allpowerful and he could have created the Earth in a second. Like Michael. J. Behe says, there are irreducibly complex structures, and single change and the won't function.
The chance of 1 single living thing coming out of non-living, and that single living thing making the tree of life. All those chances that evolutionists believe in, i don't understand it, how can you fight for the right to have an identity that you were evolved from Apes.
Sorry about my layout and not really sticking to the topic. I'm new so i hope my next post will be better =)

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Edmund352
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Message 20 of 109 (535897)
11-18-2009 4:20 PM
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11-18-2009 3:39 PM


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Durrrrr. Who created god, then?
well as someone already said before. By definition God is the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. he is the ultimate being and if you want to ask that then there would always be someone higher so basically there would be no God.

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Edmund352
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Message 22 of 109 (535901)
11-18-2009 4:28 PM
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11-18-2009 4:25 PM


yes
Isaiah 44:6 "Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: 'I am the first and I am the last, And there is no God besides Me.
Revelation 22:13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last - Who exist from everlasting to everlasting. How clear, incontestable a proof, does our Lord here give of his divine glory!

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Edmund352
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Message 25 of 109 (535906)
11-18-2009 4:41 PM
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11-18-2009 4:34 PM


Re: Easy Target Alert
thanks for the welcome...
what do you mean his teleautobiography?
If you have read the bible you would see that God is a perfect God, so i think just because Mark Twain said that doesnt mean its true.
Well sorry mate but thats a well-known fact so you tell me how an irreducibly complex system comes into being.
As for your time and circumstance, that doesn't help much. I'm saying it took some time before the 'first living creature was made' and after that everything ran smoothly? common face the facts, the probability of that happening is virtually zero
Tell me what you believe in?

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Edmund352
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Message 26 of 109 (535907)
11-18-2009 4:45 PM
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11-18-2009 4:33 PM


yes its his right too, he deserves the grace he gets.
WHat do you mean there are any number of Gods beside this one? If you look at Religions many have 1 God, with the Christian story just slightly modified, how do you think that is? you are an evolutionist?
do you believe in any kind of God?
You think you are born, you live and you die?

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Edmund352
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Message 28 of 109 (535910)
11-18-2009 4:50 PM
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11-18-2009 4:45 PM


Re: Easy Target Alert
sry but what are you on about?
can you be serious? Zeus Horus and Thor acted just like humans

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