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Author Topic:   Does Death Pose Challenge To Abiogenesis
Cedre
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Message 178 of 191 (533826)
11-03-2009 5:12 AM
Reply to: Message 176 by Drosophilla
11-03-2009 3:01 AM


Re: Emergent proerties.....
nonsense. How does a patch of oil, cloth, metal et al trundle off down a hill after a small tremor?
Lol, you make me laugh. Well I doubt that a small tremor would have any effect on the motion of a car as well, but who says the tremor has to be necessarily small, it could be a big tremor. And furthermore why does it have to be a patch of oil, it could be a jar of oil, and instead of an unfolded cloth it could be a ball of cloth, and metal parts can easily tumble down a hill, and basically anything else depending on the steepness of the hill. And as I said in a previous post the car would still go down the hill if it was turned on its head.
That is indisputable - and what follows from that is that is is dangerous to imply a 'special life force' is needed on top of the physical works.....Occam's Razor and science says it doesn't.
A car with all the parts in tact won't move unless it is driven, and the hill and tremor additions don't work for reasons I mention above and in my previous posts, so from your analogy at least you must conced that parts are not all that is required for life to be.
Edited by Cedre, : No reason given.

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Cedre
Member (Idle past 1490 days)
Posts: 350
From: Russia
Joined: 01-30-2009


Message 180 of 191 (533830)
11-03-2009 5:40 AM
Reply to: Message 179 by caffeine
11-03-2009 5:33 AM


Re: Emergent proerties.....
I already dealt with the computer issue in one of my previous posts, all you've done is replace the human driver with a computer the car still needs a driver, in this case its a computer. As for the computer itself it has human makers and it utilises power, you can have a computer but without a source of power its but a collection of non functioning hardware.

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