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Author Topic:   Holy Bible - The handbook of bad morals
Stile
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Message 1 of 11 (531721)
10-19-2009 1:53 PM


Literature Nobel-Prize winner, Jose Saramago, calls the Bible a "handbook of bad morals."
The article writes:
Saramago attacked "a cruel, jealous and unbearable God (who) exists only in our heads" and said he did not think his book would cause problems for the Catholic Church "because Catholics do not read the Bible."
"It might offend Jews, but that doesn't really matter to me," he added.
Heh.
Although I find it amusing, I agree that this seems like a simple publicity stunt.

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Buzsaw
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Message 2 of 11 (531773)
10-19-2009 6:58 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Stile
10-19-2009 1:53 PM


Achievers Need Not Apply
It's just another example of why, as with the case of Obama, to win the Nobel prize, more often than not, one need achieve little of significance, so long as the agenda and impetus of the radical Norwegian Nobel prize committee is advance.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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onifre
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Message 3 of 11 (531776)
10-19-2009 7:11 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by Buzsaw
10-19-2009 6:58 PM


Re: Achievers Need Not Apply
... more often than not ...
More often than not? Care to beck that up with some evidence, Buz?
- Oni

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Buzsaw
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Message 4 of 11 (531796)
10-20-2009 12:46 AM
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10-19-2009 7:11 PM


Re: Achievers Need Not Apply
onifre writes:
More often than not? Care to beck that up with some evidence, Buz?
Hi Onifre.
A few non achievers come to mind beginning with Barrak Obama. Among the presidents were Woodrow Wilson who was essentially a war monger, racist and globalist. He was a progressive who effected more harm than good to the nation and the world. There was terrorist Yasser Arrafat who didn't have a peaceful bone in his body. Likewise,
Kim Dae-jung and Henry Kissinger, peace signers who's act effected no peace in Viet Nam, but a brutal blood bath. I think there was a Betty Williams, activist who wished she could kill president Bush in the 70's. Jimmy Carter had to be replaced by R Reagan before the Iranian hostages would ever be released. VP Gore did little if anything waranting the prize. Kofi-Annan was a leftist leaning do little for peace globalist who's dealings with Saddam Hussein were questionable and who ignored the plight of Christians who were being brutally persecuted in Sudan and elsewhere in on the African Continent.
Having said the above, there were some deserving winners. That Nobel judges would pick the likes of Yasser Arrafat and Kim Dae-Jung and even awarding Obama, who had the most radical leftist voting record (when he voted) in Congress being picked before he did anything has to be telling as to the radical leaning mindset of the judges.
Nobel himself was radically pacivist, advocating the pipe dreamer abolition of all standing armies.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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DrJones*
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Message 5 of 11 (531799)
10-20-2009 1:58 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by Buzsaw
10-19-2009 6:58 PM


Re: Achievers Need Not Apply
so long as the agenda and impetus of the radical Norwegian Nobel prize committee is advance.
Good old Buzsaw, ignoring the facts in favor of a rant.

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry

Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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anglagard
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Message 6 of 11 (531809)
10-20-2009 3:46 AM
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10-20-2009 12:46 AM


Love = Hate, Peace = Fear
I must say if it is the Bible that has led you to the gospel according to Faux News, the Drudge Report, Glen Beck bawling and Rush Limbaugh hating, perhaps it is time to review the Gospels (as opposed to Paul).
Are we even reading the same book?
Edited by anglagard, : Book better than stuff, more impact
Edited by anglagard, : improve subtitle

The idea of the sacred is quite simply one of the most conservative notions in any culture, because it seeks to turn other ideas - uncertainty, progress, change - into crimes.
Salman Rushdie
This rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. - the character Rorschach in Watchmen

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Jazzns
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Message 7 of 11 (531973)
10-20-2009 5:47 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by Buzsaw
10-20-2009 12:46 AM


Re: Achievers Need Not Apply
Jimmy Carter had to be replaced by R Reagan before the Iranian hostages would ever be released.
Iran didn't release the hostages for Carter because R Reagan told them they would get a better deal if they waited until after the election. And they got it!
Ahh, good Republican morals at their best. Patriotism too!

If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be. --Thomas Jefferson

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onifre
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Message 8 of 11 (531982)
10-20-2009 6:29 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by Buzsaw
10-20-2009 12:46 AM


Re: Achievers Need Not Apply
A few non achievers come to mind beginning with Barrak Obama.
I'm sorry, "non-achiever?" First black president in the HISTORY of this nation, and you think that is not an achievement? Just the fact that he brought out black voters, a minority that has never felt a part of this country, is reason enough to think that Obama has made some achievements. Lets not disregard all of that either. I agree that perhaps the Peace Prize was a bit too presumtuous, but calling Obama a "non-achiever" is not fair.
Nobel himself was radically pacivist,
LOL, a "radical" pacifist? All pacifism is considered non-traditional so you don't have to add "radical" to it.
My point is, you said the Nobel prizes usual goes to those who don't achieve much. Are you considering all of the prizes in science, literature, etc.? Or is this just about your disapproval of Obama?
- Oni

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Blue Jay
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Message 9 of 11 (532001)
10-20-2009 7:58 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by Buzsaw
10-19-2009 6:58 PM


Re: Achievers Need Not Apply
Hi, Buzsaw.
Buzsaw writes:
It's just another example of why, as with the case of Obama, to win the Nobel prize, more often than not, one need achieve little of significance, so long as the agenda and impetus of the radical Norwegian Nobel prize committee is advance.
There are many different Nobel Prizes, and they're all given out by different institutes.
The Norwegian Nobel Committee only gives out the Nobel Peace Prize.
The Nobel Prizes for physics, chemisty and economics are given out by the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences.
The Nobel Prize in medicine is given out by the Karolinska Institute.
The Nobel Prize that Saramago won (i.e. for literature) is given out by the Swedish Academy (which is not the same thing as the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences).
I'm sure it won't change your argument in the slightest, but, at least this way the newer readers will recognize that your comments are not part of a political crusade against a specific corrupt institute, but are founded on a general sense of paranoia about everything.

-Bluejay (a.k.a. Mantis, Thylacosmilus)
Darwin loves you.

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DrJones*
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From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
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Message 10 of 11 (532035)
10-20-2009 11:08 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by Blue Jay
10-20-2009 7:58 PM


Re: Achievers Need Not Apply
You spoiled my fun by explaining it to him, I was kind of hoping he'd provide some more amusement by jamming his head even further up his ass.

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry

Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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Buzsaw
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Message 11 of 11 (532038)
10-20-2009 11:16 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by Blue Jay
10-20-2009 7:58 PM


New Perspective.
Hi Bluejay. Thanks for he heads up on the Nobel prizes at large. I wasn't aware of all of this so perhaps I may have a more positive perspective relative to the organization. Perhaps I should have done some extensive research before embroiling myself in this topic.

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