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Author Topic:   Noah's Ark? If we put our brains together we can work it out.
tuffers
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Message 1 of 3 (530665)
10-14-2009 12:47 PM


Does anybody out there really believe in Noah’s Ark?
I mean, come on! Think of the practicalities.
I saw one of those Creation scientists on TV the other day explaining how Noah and his family could have managed to look after all the many thousands of species whilst they were on the boat. It was pitifully hilarious. He had even calculated exactly how many cages would be needed, and how they could have allocated sufficient time to tend to each cage. However, he completely failed address some rather key questions:
- How did Noah manage to get of 2 of every species to his boat? Particularly species like kangaroos, lemurs and polar bears that are only found in remote parts of the world, thousands of miles from each other, and were not even known about at the time?
- What did the animals eat whilst on the ship?
- More to the point - what did the animals eat after they were let off the ship? For example, a better predator to prey ratio than 1:1 (or 2:2) is needed. It needs to be more like 1:20, 1:50, 1:100 or 1:1000. 2 lions are not going to survive and re-build their species by eating only 2 antelope. And 2 antelope aren’t going to survive and re-build their species if they get eaten by 2 lions as soon as they step off the boat! And then, what did the cheetahs, leopards, tigers, jaguars, wolves, hyenas, foxes, weasels, etc eat?
Ah! I’ve just worked it out! As the floods receded, there would have been many fish and other marine animals left floundering on the dry land. All the land predators would have stuffed themselves on whales and sushi while grazers like antelope re-built their numbers.
But hang-on, what did all the grazers eat after they got off the ship? Many of the plants would not have survived a complete flood.
If anyone can explain that, I think we’ve got it all worked out.
Er apart from how he got all the animals to the boat in the first place.
And then there’s the question of how all the saltwater and freshwater species managed to survive in the same floodwater, whether the floodwater was salty or fresh.
Maybe there is still quite a bit of work to do. Any answers would be appreciated.

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Message 2 of 3 (530709)
10-14-2009 3:25 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by tuffers
10-14-2009 12:47 PM


A LOT of good points but...
...it's way too diverse to have any chance of being a coherent topic (not that any of our topics are that coherent, but that still is the target).
You may wish to look around for existing topics, or you may wish to focus in more on a particular aspect and propose another topic.
I'm rejecting this one, but will leave it open for now.
Other admins - opinions?
Adminnemooseus

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tuffers
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Message 3 of 3 (530820)
10-15-2009 5:11 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by Adminnemooseus
10-14-2009 3:25 PM


Re: A LOT of good points but...
Hi Adminnemooseus
I can understand why you think that my post it is too diverse to open up for discussion, but that is essentially the point I was trying to make - there are so many diverse reasons why Noah's Ark is improbable! The implausability of the story doesn't hang on 1 or 2 minor technical details but instead on a whole raft (no pun intended) of incredibly unbelievable propositions.
I think anyone who wishes to claim the story to be true has to be able to account for ALL the incredible implications.
Anyway, I respect your decision as to whether or not this is appropriate for discussion.

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