Moons: their origin, age, & recession

Let me turn that around on you: "Remember, right now your explanation for the moons is, 'nature did it'.Right. (wink)Idiocy. You don't even know HOW the moon was fashioned in the first place, still less the entire solar system but you give me that grade school comeback.

It's called 'ignore'.

He ignored the fact that I gave that very site address and their formula in the topic post.But if you would like to see just one of my sources:The moon's recession and age - creation.comA rather complete discussion of the whole issue.Have a nice day.

I can do that NOW. But it would be off topic & since I got suspended several times last week for getting off topic, I won't do it now. I will do this when I go to the theology thread.

I asked for an observation, not an opinion.The moon did not make itself, develop slowly, or spring forth from another object: it was created by Almighty God, the creator of the heavens and the earth. There really isn't anything you can do about it.

I am having problems with that reply. You ASSUME scripture is not divine because there are competing religions in the world? Never mind the fact that Jesus Christ had many witnesses to his resurrection from the dead and that Christianity would not even exist in our day if He had not lived up to His promise to raise from the dead. Luke 9:22. He made this promise many times and had He broken that promise his distraught disciples who experienced the loss of their leader a the crucifixion (and many quit!) would never have gone out and spread the Word of Jesus...still less die a martyr's death for him as all of them did.Now, back to the moon. I am still waiting for someone to give evidence that the moon developed slowly from gases or from other celestial objects.How did this: Become this?

I can, but not on this venue. Anything I say on this website can be and will be placed in question. You aren't telling the truth. I answered the question more than once but it is ignored. I not only explained it myself but I pointed the readers to the experts who developed the formula. Here is yet another: The Age of the Universe, Part 2 | Answers in Genesis Now don't pester me with that useless question again because the issues are addressed in full by those who wrote the articles!If any of you truly cared to get all the answers you would do what I have done: telephone the scientists who wrote the articles. I have personally talked to Dr. DeYoung, Dr. Larry Vardiman, and even Henry Morris when he was still alive so I could get it 'straight from the horses mouth'. So if you don't think my answers are sufficient then go the distance and call them.

I can show you part of it but you won't accept it.1. (this part will have to be shown off EvC. Can't do it here.)
2. Stong nuclear force. It is literally God's Almighty power holding all things together. ('upholding all things by the word of His power' Hebrews 1;3).
3. The Word of God. Jesus Christ, the most truthful person who ever lived, "But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female." Mark 10:6. If you don't take His word for it then we can never come to an agreement. I trust Him implicitly.Now get back to answering my question: How did the moon develop by natural processes into what it is now? How did ANY of the moons or planets that they orbit develop by slow and gradual means. Do you have an observation for such a thing?

Watched it. Pure theory and nothing more. Anyone who believes that nonsense has a real problem with reality.

Good grief, the intellectual ability on this thread wouldn't fill a thimble.Give documentated data that the 4 cm/yr regression was different in the distant past.Point: I am not saying that it wasn't different but the explanations for it have been given! Did you even bother to read the extensive articles I provided in previous posts?Call Don DeYoung and talk to him. You can get in touch with him through Grace College: Grace College a Christian College in Indiana - Grace CollegeShow some personal initiative and stop bellyaching at me over something you should already know!

My reply to that: hogwash. The logic and reason went out the window when you and your comrades accepted an accidental world/universe that just happened all by itself and that life arose on this planet by blind natural processes even though there isn't a single example revealing that nature can do such a thing. So nature has never been observed creating planets or moons, or even a single living cell (outside of existing DNA coded cells) but you believe it any way. Again, I say, 'hogwash'.So much for empirical investigation.Do you have any other fairy tales you would like to tell us about?Edited by Calypsis4, : addition

Why should I?And why should it matter who I am? We are supposed to be dealing with the topic, not personalities. You forgot that.

I am not going to address him directly because I am weary of his attitude. He won't take answers when they are laid right in front of him. He is the one who should 'back down' because he hasn't got a clue about the formation of earths moon or any other moon for that matter and he cannot prove that the formula I posted in the topic is in error.He doesn't even know of the origin of gravitational forces in the first place! But of course, us 'ignorant' Christians are supposed to swallow the nonsense that nature developed things like F = Gm1m2/r^2 and that the balance of nature 'balanced' itself! Anyone who follows that line of thinking is a fool.

If and when I see you personally then I will show you as I have done with other skepics, some of whom did accept and others rejected. Look in the mirror. Are the atoms of your body holding together? How about everything else around you? Are those atoms holding together? Now, there is an ancient text of scripture that tells us that God holds all things together. He is the most famous human being that ever lived because of His power before the people. By Him all things consist. You are seeing His power whether you recognize it or not. I have in my files hundreds of answers to prayer that I have made in the last 40 yrs. I am by no means alone in this experience. Which of those should I post? And if I do so will I not be off topic? We will have to finish this particular area of discussion on another thread. No, I have something just as good. But I cannot do it here so don't harp on a point that I cannot reveal on this venue.The Bible is a written account of the history of the world from creation until the time of Christ. If you can't accept that as authoritative then we are at an impass. Nonetheless, since I have seen miraculous power, instantaneous healings, & supernatural occurrences on a number of occasions, and because true science comports with divine revelation, I utterly reject the skeptics position that the blind forces of natures made all things.

For someone who is incapable of 'deep' thinking...or perhaps I should say, 'honest' thinking.Tell the readers how the moons of our solar system developed. Better yet, tell them how the solar system developed from nebulous gases. Then give an illustration from observation. Edited by Calypsis4, : correction