Should we want our loved ones to get to Heaven?

In the Eternal Life (thanks, but no thanks) thread iano and I had a short back and fort about whether we ought to want our loved ones to get into Heaven, seeing as when we are in Heaven, we supposedly will not feel any regret or sorrow over loved ones that fail to make it there with us. It was suggested that this be moved to its own thread, so here we are.Let's assume for the sake of argument the following:
1) When we get to Heaven there will be no sorrow or regret.
2) Some of those we now consider loved ones will not be in Heaven with us.
3) The reason we don't feel sorrow or regret over #2 is because #2 is truly not a justification for those emotions. IOW, it's not because God zapped our memories or forced our attitudes to conform to this against our will.My contention is that, given the above and for-knowledge of the above, it is irrational to want our loved ones to get to Heaven, because the other outcome must be at least equally as desirable or we would have justification for regret/sorrow after the fact. Any desire by us to want our loved ones to get to Heaven, while understandable in human emotional terms, is not warranted.Faith and Belief? This is my first attempt at starting a thread so I'll defer to the moderators.Edited by Adminnemooseus, : In red note at top.

Beats the heck out of me. Are you setting something up to tie in to the OP? I can try and formulate an answer if that would help.

I guess I don't know how to respond and stay on topic both, so I'll take a pass...

I would say you've got it right. Really? I wouldn't say that's true. Why does it not make sense to talk about what we want for our loved ones when we are in Heaven? It's too late to affect anything, sure, but unless we get turned into emotionless automatons...
Actually, that would solve the dilema nicely, but it's hardly in keeping with Christian theology, to my understanding.I'm guessing the real reason you have a problem with my conclusion is that it just seems to be obviously wrong. I would agree with this. My whole point is that it throws major suspicion upon the orginal assumptions: there must be something there that isn't right.

Someone close to me once committed a crime (through neglegence) and spent a few years in jail. The facts of the case were clear to everyone and he was absolutely guilt ridden for what he had done: he plead guilty and served his time. There was no question in my mind or his that the sentence was just and appropriate, but it caused me anguish every time I thought about him behine bars, never mind how he felt about it. It seems to me that it is one thing to agree that a situation is just and right, and another thing entirely to feel no regret or sorrow over it. If there is anything at all negative or bad or hurtful about a situation, then we can justifiably feel bad about it.So for us not to feel any regrets or sorrow over our (previous) loved ones while in Heaven, it seems to me that we must be of the opinion that there is nothing at all wrong with the situation. It isn't enough to think that it is proper and just; the lesser of two evils. We have to think that it is not evil whatsoever.

Well, I think you’ve stated iano’s position correctly, and I think your right in saying that it really doesn’t work as a solution to the dilemma. If we just become non-existent in either case, then we don’t even have to bother to ask what our future selves think about it: it’s just the same either way and we shouldn’t even try to get ourselves into Heaven, never mind our loved ones.If it’s somewhere in the middle — half of ourselves carry on, whatever that means — then I don’t see that as all that different than our entire selves surviving, and we're back to the original situation, in essence.