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RAZD Member (Idle past 1427 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Too late. lol Since when is 7:52 (my post) before 8:00 (promotion) too late? I also predicted the pile of responses.
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bluescat48 Member (Idle past 4211 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: |
There must be some problem, when I got on at 8:05 this morning neither post was there, a few minutes later I left EvC and checked my E-mail, then got back on at ~8:10 and both were there.
There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
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Admin Director Posts: 13018 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 1.9 |
You weren't too late, and I did see your post before promoting the proposal. I always read new posts in [forum=-19] before those in [forum=-25].
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subbie Member (Idle past 1276 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
alaninnont has proposed a topic, responding specifically to my challenge that he present evidence contrary to what he calls the atheist and evolutionist point of view. AdminNosy (who recently posted an excellent piece that I nominated as a POTM) has suggested revisions in the interest of focus.
I would like to claim personal privilege, in as much as it was me he was quoting and because, in particular, I assured him (her?) that no points would be ignored. I fully recognize the chaos that would ensue if the thread were opened for general participation as is. Therefore, I request, if it would be acceptable to alaninnont, that it be opened as a Great Debate topic for his and my participation only. I think limiting the participants would tend to keep the focus closer. What's more, since I threw down the gauntlet, I feel it appropriate that I be allowed the opportunity to meet alaninnont on the field of battle that I implicitly defined. I am confident that the wise and fair AdminNosy, a recent POTM nominee, will consider my humble and respectful request and make a just decision. For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
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Adminnemooseus Administrator Posts: 3974 Joined: |
A "Great Debate" sure sounds like the way to go. That proposed topic is so bloated that I don't see refining it down as being practice. A whole new PNT would be the way to go.
I'm enough of a jerk to be willing to bypass AdminNosy and promote the topic myself. I, however, would strongly suggest you not do a one person "pile on the creationist". Try handling the subtopic in small bites. Also, let's keep the attitudes thoroughly on the "Minnesota Nice" plane of things. Adminnemooseus Added by edit:
The "Great Debate" topic location. Edited by Adminnemooseus, : See above. New Members should start HERE to get an understanding of what makes great posts. Report a problem etc. type topics:
Report Technical Problems Here: No. 1 Report Discussion Problems Here: No. 2 Thread Reopen Requests Considerations of topic promotions from the "Proposed New Topics" forum Other useful links:
Forum Guidelines, [thread=-19,-112], [thread=-17,-45], [thread=-19,-337], [thread=-14,-1073] Admin writes:
It really helps moderators figure out if a topic is disintegrating because of general misbehavior versus someone in particular if the originally non-misbehaving members kept it that way. When everyone is prickly and argumentative and off-topic and personal then it's just too difficult to tell. We have neither infinite time to untie the Gordian knot, nor the wisdom of Solomon. There used to be a comedian who presented his ideas for a better world, and one of them was to arm everyone on the highway with little rubber dart guns. Every time you see a driver doing something stupid, you fire a little dart at his car. When a state trooper sees someone driving down the highway with a bunch of darts all over his car he pulls him over for being an idiot. Please make it easy to tell you apart from the idiots. Source
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Straggler Member Posts: 10333 From: London England Joined: |
Hello
Can I get Immaterial "Evidence" reconsidered for promotion? If it is to be be promoted can I edit it slightly first?
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Admin Director Posts: 13018 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 1.9 |
You should change your primary alias to Sysiphus!
I'll reopen the thread proposal, post a note there when you're done with your edit.
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Wounded King Member Posts: 4149 From: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA Joined: |
Should we take the fact that Mike the Wiz is reduced to making arguments based on YouTube comments, [thread=-13647], to be a sign of the death of EvCForum as a site for meaningful debate?
TTFN, WK Edited by Wounded King, : No reason given.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
Our new member cpthiltz is just rewriting a webpage for his 2nd attempt at a topic.
Message 1 is just a quick rewrite of this Page not found | Blogcritics It is written by the same person whose website cpthiltz wanted us to look at in the first topic that was proposed.
Message 1 http://joshgreenberger.com/cmanage/article_evofacad.php As I look it the web pages more closely, I see that the webp ages and the post are just 3 different versions of the the PRATTs. I am assuming, or hoping, our new member is Josh Greenburger himself.
quote:If not there maybe some plagiarizing issues. Gee he wrote a book disproving evolution. Damn I never heard about when he won the Nobel Prize. Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
I rather doubt that they are the same person. Josh Greenberger seems to be American with no interest in geology - and cpthiltz claims to be a geology student in Scotland, with an interest in cricket.
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Taz Member (Idle past 3313 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
I'm referring to this topic proposal.
OH, COME ON! (1) Removing a link for hate mongering? We're a bunch of professionals here. We're not a bunch of idiots that will get brainwashed by a website. (2) Promote the damn thing and let us discuss what's wrong with the proposed topic. (3) Do you want me to start posting links to the kkk, westboro baptist church, and a whole crapload of other hate mongering websites?
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Wounded King Member Posts: 4149 From: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA Joined: |
I see there is a new topic proposal on deleterious mutation and genetic load, it might be as well to direct the proposer to continue the similar existing topic Genetic load: can someone explain?.
TTFN, WK
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Wounded King Member Posts: 4149 From: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA Joined: |
New member Hopecrawford's proposed topics, three of them and representing his first three posts, all seem both hugely underdeveloped and mostly redundant.
Maybe someone can suggest to him he take part in some of the ongoing discussions before starting his own. I wonder if it would be worth having a minimal post number requirement before being allowed to propose new topics/open new threads. It wouldn't need to be dozens or hundreds, maybe only 10 or so might be enough to give people some grounding, might this not also help to alleviate some spam? If someone did make a first post to a topic that was genuinely worthy of discussion but off topic for the thread in question there is no reason someone else couldn't use it as the basis for a PNT. TTFN, WK
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Taz Member (Idle past 3313 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
Double proposed new topic by same member followed by double promotion for the same damn thing.
EvC Forum: How Dawkins made me a better person EvC Forum: The God Delusion, how it converted an evangalist
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Wounded King Member Posts: 4149 From: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA Joined: |
I'd second this, and also point out that Den now has three topics which are basically making the same lame argument.
TTFN, WK
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