At what point does the willful self-deception (lying to oneself) become lying to others?
Creationists go to great lengths to make up "what if" stories to explain away the contradictions between their religious beliefs and scientific findings. They ignore data, misrepresent data, manufacture false data, and violate every tenet of the scientific method and logic, all in order to claim that their religious beliefs are supported by science. Creation "science" is the golden standard for this deliberate misrepresentation, with ID coming in a close second. The Discovery Institute, aptly called the "Dishonesty Institute" is the standard-bearer for ID and, though they would deny it, for creation "science."
We see this misrepresentation very often with the "intermediate" question, the subject of this thread, but the purported "science" supporting the biblical global flood about 4,350 years ago has to be the single most outlandish example of creation "science" and the "what if" approach to the scientific method.
At what point does this willful self-deception become out-and-out lying?
Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.