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RAZD Member (Idle past 1655 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
most researchers in the field refer to these compounds as "abiotic" or "prebiotic" compounds. Sounds like they reached the same conclusion about confusing organic with living products ... not too surprising. Prebiotic works for me, being essentially the same derivation as my wording.
"Meteors" specifically refers to a body entering the Earth's atmosphere prior to landing. Meteor\meteorite, again no biggie for me. The '-ites' have landed. Perhaps an effect of trying for layman ease and got a little loose.
Early models have assumed a "reducing" atmosphere ... I intentionally changed this as most people wouldn't know that a reducing atmosphere was acidic by comparison. guilty.
... this line of evidence has been pretty much dismissed, ... However, this just pushes the origin back to 3.5 Ga, where we have less controversial evidence for life. So much for that then. The 3.5 Ga data .... (google gooogle goooogle) Nicht gefunden - Not found
The oldest fossils are the approximately 3.465 Billion-year-old (Ga) microfossils from the Apex Chert, Australia. These are colonies of cyanobacteria (formerly called blue-green algae) which built real reefs. Still archaea, link to thermophiles lessened, still need to have evolved somewhere ... ah sweet mystery of life eh? Thanks. we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1655 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
I have made some revisions to take into account the comments from MattP (Message 15) and to (hopefully) take care of the black diamonds.
See e-mail for revisions. (You might want to turn off autoformat to prevent alteration to the file) we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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Change made, please check over.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1655 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
looks good. the diamonds are gone on my machine.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1655 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
thanks for the input. see the changes made and tell me what you think.
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Matt P Member (Idle past 5025 days) Posts: 106 From: Tampa FL Joined: |
Hi RAZD, looks great! Also, if you want another reference for the phosphorus work instead of Reddy 2004, you can cite:
Pasek, M.A., and Lauretta, D.S., 2005, Astrobiology 5(4), 515-535. Let me know if you would like a copy of this article as a .pdf. Again, great job!
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Brad McFall Member (Idle past 5283 days) Posts: 3428 From: Ithaca,NY, USA Joined: |
quote: quote: quote: quote: COSMIC ANCESTRY: Panspermia's evidence and implications. “A scientific solution is possible if Earth’s biosphere is open to biological input from elsewhere.”
quote: If I understand Dr. Georgi Gladyshev correctly classical science ALREADY contained a potential solution, right here on Earth. I also see no need to call in the seeds of change when one simply needs to wait for the other shoe to drop. Even if or when we find microbial life off of Earth the problem of tracking the trajectory through less limited time frames will continue to remain as it does today only we will have the extra burden of a loss of subjective morphological intuition we possess for creatures with Bauplanes more similar to ours. In this case, for instance Will Provine recently announced a conversation he had with Lyn Margulis in which Will came to the opinion that we might NEVER be able to construct a tree of life for the first few years on Earth and that he was OK with that. If there are microbes around the solarsystem and beyond we will be in the same position then as we are now with the need for a deductive biogeography. If classical science already provides the means to ends that do not need special pleading then I see no reason why they should not be used. This website had contrasted “macroevolutionary progress” and a sorting out of preEarth ancestral area biogeography into post modern frames in mind paragonally. But if indeed macrothermodynamics has truth IN IT, then while there may indeed be some kind of “progress” that is often down played in most pedagogy on the structure of evolutionary theory today, there is NO such clear discrimination available TO THE CONTINUUM binding life reproductively (necessarily). The “solution” could be as simple as the expanded space origin hypothesizes but from the complexity of biodiversity already ON (Mother) Earth I see no a priori reason to suspect that empirics must give a solute other than those subject to hierarchical thermodynamics, in which class, the sorting must only be denoted to the primary parts rather than the total issue of genetic homogeneity in a whatever it is heterogenous crossing of Earth oribits over time.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1655 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
yes please. and thanks again for the help.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1655 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
For those interested in the probability of life as we know it ...
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Phat Member Posts: 18633 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.1 |
whats up with this "bump" stuff?
For those who are interested, here is RAZD's opening statement:
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1655 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
whats up with this "bump" stuff? 'bump' brings old topics back into the current posting listings I 'bump' a topic when someone is discussing a similar theme on another thread where it is off topic. In this case another questioning of abiogenesis 'probabilities' ...
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1655 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
From
Stardust may be basis of life on Earth | Space | The Guardian
quote: "Every time it rains, it rains ...bennies from heaven ..." Now I need to find a journal article that tells me what all those organic molecules were. Enjoy. Edited by RAZD, : because I can we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmericanOZen[Deist
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1655 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Building blocks of life formed on Mars
quote: quote: They don't say what the molecules are that they found. Thanks LindaLou for your link Enjoy. Edited by RAZD, : " marks correctedby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click) |
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1655 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
The text of this column seems to be missing. I still have the original if you need it.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1655 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
I can furnish the text if it has become lost, or you can access an HTML version at:
http://razd.evcforum.net/Building-Blocks.htm Enjoy. by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. • • • Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click) • • •
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