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Stile
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Message 42 of 104 (484934)
10-03-2008 9:56 AM


Me too, me too
Just wanted to say I'm peeking in and lurking. I doubt I'll post any questions or comments since I think this will very quickly go beyond my ability to follow.
But I'll certainly have fun trying

  
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Message 69 of 104 (491626)
12-18-2008 1:39 PM
Reply to: Message 68 by Son Goku
12-18-2008 12:21 PM


Re: Quantum Probability 1
Son Goku writes:
So I can label each state of the coin by its list of averages. The collection of these lists of averages is then called the Hilbert Space of the coin.
That is to say:
The Hilbert Space of a coin is the list of all possible averages that any coin can have.
Would dimes have a different Hilbert space than quarters? Or is a Hilbert space powerful enough to describe all "two-sided coins" or something? Or is this not a good question for this kind of analogy?
I assume a Hilbert space includes all theoretical coins? That is, it's quite possible to have a state in the Hilbert space for a coin that does not actually exist, correct?

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Message 70 of 104 (491627)
12-18-2008 1:41 PM
Reply to: Message 68 by Son Goku
12-18-2008 12:21 PM


Re: Quantum Probability 1
Double Post. Whoops.
Edited by Stile, : My first double post! Yay??

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Stile
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Message 78 of 104 (502014)
03-09-2009 10:30 AM
Reply to: Message 74 by Son Goku
03-07-2009 5:59 AM


Re: Quantum Probability 2
As Straggler said, I'm happy you're continuing as well. But I don't have much to say right now.
Except for this:
All because nature cares about which way things are multiplied.
Was there a specific reason you said "multiplied" here? That is, I would have said:
All because nature cares about which way things are measured.
Is there a difference that is escaping me?
Basically, I don't see nature having a problem with multiplication. It's just that you end up with different numbers to muliply depending on the order of taking the measurement.

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Message 82 of 104 (514837)
07-13-2009 9:13 AM
Reply to: Message 81 by Son Goku
06-24-2009 6:54 AM


Re: Quantum Probability 4
Hi Son Goku, sorry I didn't reply for a while.
I did read this a while ago, and I do still check it and read it over and am interested in (and thankful for) your descriptions.
Son Goku writes:
I just wanted to ask, is any of this making any sense?
Yes, and maybe no.
Yes - I understand everything you're talking about in a when-you're-talking-about-it sense. That is, I get the different bits and pieces you're describing and I understand the details you've provided.
Maybe No - My problem is that I am unaware of how all the details and different bits come together to give us anything. I think I'm a bit lost in the forest and think I'm in a small group of trees
I cannot identify your goal or the main reasoning behind such descriptions right now. However, I may just be waiting for this:
Next I'll try to deal with some of the physics that comes out of quantum fields.
...such a talk may clear up all my current fogginess
Please proceed whenever you have the time. I can only give you my word that it is greatly appreciated. Hopefully there are some other lurkers gaining insights from your time and effort here as well.

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