Shoes for Journalists

When Obama lies to start a war that kills millions of people, displaces more into poverty, slavery, prostitution, and homelessness, authorizes torture, fails to protect Americans from terrorists, fails to respond to natural disasters, deregulates us into oblivion, and acts like he is the hero of the world......I would hand you my own shoes to throw.

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If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be. --Thomas Jefferson

I wouldn't want to defend Bush either. Nothing I said is really all that controversial.There are dead, poor, homeless, Iraqis directly because of the blunder that was the post war planning. One of the biggest industries in refugee areas in Syria is prostitution especially for underage girls.The only foreign terrorist attack on US soil in decades happened on his watch. That is a fact.He did in fact fail to respond appropriatly to Katrina which was more than demonstrated by what was done at the federal level to support the midwest flooding last year. The federal government is not only empowered to do something in those circumstances it is capable of being effective. He appointed people who were wholly unprepared and unqualified to run those organizations because he had to pay people back for supporting him. How else do you get someone who's primary expertise is arabian horses running FEMA?He is a total hack and embarassment as a president. We as citizens have absolutly NO requirement to respect the office of the president and even less responsibility to respect the man. In fact, I would argue that it is un-American to give your unconditional support and respect for a president just by his condition of being in office. We should be harshest of critics of the president and ANY elected official whos job it is to server in OUR best interests.My that same token, I'll take Obama to task for his egregious support of the FISA bill, his face saving mixture of blue-dog and progressive economic and social policies. His donning the mantle of progressives without ever having demonstrated any action as a senator that would warrant it.In American culture we may not even think about throwing a shoe, it just turns out that such a thing has a special meaning to that culture as an insult. If I wanted to express my opinion to Bush I would just simply say, "Fuck you for ruining the nation I love."Edited by Jazzns, : appall'in spall'in

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If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be. --Thomas Jefferson

Yea of course. When you join the military the president becomes your boss. That obviously produces a different dynamic.

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If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be. --Thomas Jefferson

Your right. I had forgotten about that.All the more reason we should have been paying attention then.

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If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be. --Thomas Jefferson

I am anything but a Clinton supporter. In fact it can be argued that the current financial mess we are in has roots back to his presidency and his support for the drumbeat of deregulation that has been going on since Regan.But it is all to convienent, and common among conservatives, to use Clinton as a punching bag for anything negative that happened during the Bush years. Presidential terms are not protected from the actions of their predecessors but the responsibility ultimatly falls upon them for their failures where there is evidence that they could have taken action despite the failings of past presidents.We now know that W's administration knew about the threat from AQ, knew that they may use planes as bombs, and knew that the WTC and Pentagon were potential targets. Should Clinton have done more while he was prez? Sure. But that does not change the fact that Bush, with the knowledge readily at hand, failed to protect America from attack.

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If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be. --Thomas Jefferson

OMG, I didn't even notice the reference. I didn't click on it mostly because I don't care and am tired of Clinton being an excuse for everything.But yea, basically it just makes that whole post nothing more than a regurgitation of Clinton bashing to recuse Bush from responsibility.Same old; wash, rinse, repeat.