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Syamsu 
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Message 1 of 2 (488725)
11-15-2008 7:08 PM


It is so, mainstream science doesn't like freedom. It's not allowed in science papers when you get variation in results to attribute the difference to freedom. When you get variation then you must conjure up some error in measurement, fantasize some hidden variables, posit some imaginary particles, make a tearful admission of your failure to control all variables in the experiment.
Not acknowledging freedom, wel that is what fascists do, and so there is no freedom of religion in science. I had the displeasure to read Feynmann, Einstein, Darwin and Heackel talk about their "spiritual" beliefs. What a tortured load of oppressed rubbish it is. Fleeting moments of acknowledgedgement when they looked at the universe and "felt something". Whimsical nothings, no dedication, no prayer, and a lot of tortured reasoning if they should even allow this tiny halfdead spiritual feeling or not.
Tomorrow is another day in a world where the majority of scientists disbelieve in freedom, scientists who want to fit everything into the cause and effect mould. A community where creationism is held in ridicule, the one discipline in science that seeks to investigate free acts seriously, the acts of creation.
I am waiting for that other tomorrow, when the scientists turn round and say of course freedom is real, ofcourse creation is real, ofcourse what decides is spiritual. Yes ofcourse, we all know that's true, except on an intellectual level for some.

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Message 2 of 2 (488740)
11-16-2008 7:46 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Syamsu
11-15-2008 7:08 PM


I'm sorry to have closed your other thread without comment, Syamsu, but even you must be aware that for many of your views are unusual, and there are times when your posts are so difficult to make sense of that they appear to be nonsense. You've been here a long time, and we're way past the point where dialogs with moderators are likely to bring about the desired improvements (from a moderator standpoint, of course).
We have limited moderator resources, and so if you will not or cannot put a topic proposal into a form that seems rational and understandable to moderators then we'll close it. Sorry.

--Percy
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