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johnfolton 
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Message 1 of 30 (482160)
09-15-2008 6:30 AM


I was thinking bible inerrancy but feel too its to big to be coffee house perhaps bible study? Like the bible means what it says kind of stuff that keeps repeating all the worst natural disasters are related to Israel. Everytime we pressurized Israel to give up land to the palestians we get laid low by natural disaster within days.
As a nation we need to support Israel so God will protect us as a nation instead we go the route of inviting God to do to us what were pressuring Israel to do. Seems bible study given all the supportive bible verses, that its Gods land. The timing of Gustov, Katrina, Andrew, are but a special kind of statement that no nation is exempt in respect to Israel.
Joel 3:1,2
For, behold, in those days, and in that time, when I shall bring again the captivity of Judah and Jerusalem,
I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and [for] my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land.
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Message 6 of 30 (482194)
09-15-2008 11:36 AM
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09-15-2008 7:31 AM


so where's your evidence? What land did we pressure Israel to give up during Katrina? Or this summer? Is it the threat of losing land or the actual loss of land, or both, that cause the disasters?
The whole land of Canaan, where you are now an alien, I will give as an everlasting possession to you and your descendants after you; and I will be their God." Genesis 17:1-8
" 'The land must not be sold permanently, because the land is mine and you are but aliens and my tenants. Leviticus 25:23
Be strong and courageous, because you will lead these people to inherit the land I swore to their forefathers to give them. (Joshua 1,6)
You gave them kingdoms and nations, allotting to them even the remotest frontiers... You made their sons as numerous as the stars in the sky, and you brought them into the land that you told their fathers to enter and possess. (Nehemiah 9,22-23)
4Even if you have been banished to the most distant land under the heavens, from there the Lord your God will gather you and bring you back. 5He will bring you to the land that belonged to your fathers, and you will take possession of it. He will make you more prosperous and numerous than your fathers. Deut. 30:1-5
Joel 3:2, “I will enter into judgment with them [all the nations who] . have divided up My Land.”
Ten Major U.S. Disasters on Dates Significant to Treatment of Israel-Truth!
Ten major U.S. disasters on dates significant to treatment of Israel-Truth! - Truth or Fiction?
FROM WND'S JERUSALEM BUREAU
Did God send Katrina
as judgment for Gaza?
Eerie parallels between forced evacuations spark speculation
Posted: September 07, 2005
1:00 am Eastern
By Aaron Klein
© 2008 WorldNetDaily.com
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Joel 3:2, “I will enter into judgment with them [all the nations who] . have divided up My Land.”
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Message 7 of 30 (482200)
09-15-2008 12:05 PM
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09-15-2008 11:26 AM


What did China do to Israel to cause their earthquake this Spring? What did Haiti do to them to get two killer hurricanes in a couple of weeks?
The hurricanes hitting the US are actually sent by Allah to punish us for supporting Israel, johnfolton. Don't you know nuthin'
Allahs the great Satan the muslims god! thought you knew this?
Here's a verse perhaps about the Lord sitting at the right hand that God judges amoung the heathen nations. In verse 1 the Lord said unto my Lord sit thou at my right hand until I make thine enemies a footstool. psalm 110:1 in verse 4 we see he has sworn and will not repent that he will strike thru kings in the day of his wrath.
akjv psalms 110:6 He shall judge among the heathen, he shall fill the places with the dead bodies: he shall wound the heads over many countries.
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Message 8 of 30 (482203)
09-15-2008 12:16 PM
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09-15-2008 8:44 AM


Off topic material hidden; use peek to see it. The bible says talks about the nations inheritance that Jacob is the allotment of His inheritance. Prophecy has it that he cast them out as tenants and brought them back. It due to his word to Sarah to her seed belongs the right to abide in the promised lands that belongs to God going back to the inheritance of the nations.
Deuteronomy 32:9 "For the LORD'S portion is His people; Jacob is the allotment of His inheritance.
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09-15-2008 1:32 PM
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Message 13 of 30 (482231)
09-15-2008 1:44 PM
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09-15-2008 1:12 PM


Everyone knows all of the hurricanes are punishments from God for tolerating homosexuality!
Katrina did stop one of those get togethers, hmmm... love it a two for one! So your partly at fault for Katrina but think we all knew that the bigger issue was the timing in respect to Israel land!
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Message 18 of 30 (482261)
09-15-2008 5:18 PM
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09-15-2008 4:23 PM


So you admit that this God guy of yours is too puny to stop Allah from sending his wrath against the heathen Christians!
Not at all akjv psalm 91:1, akjv Romans 2:3
It will take only one angel to grab Allah (the great satan) and bind and seal in a hole in the earth. Allah is whispering in the muslims ear that they should destroy Israel by strapping bombs but all that is happening is the muslims themselves are being cut into pieces how is this not fullfilling Zehariah 12:3 Zechariah 12:1 clarifies the God of the bible is the creator that stretches out the heavens and layeth down the foundations of the earth and formeth the spirit of man within him. If the God of creation is doing battle with Allah then Allah is the great deciever the dragon the great satan,etc... Tell it like it is the devil goal is to be God and he has the entire muslim nation worshipping him unawares.

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Message 20 of 30 (482276)
09-15-2008 5:58 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by Rahvin
09-15-2008 2:09 PM


So, you have no evidence you deity exists, no evidence to support your assertion that natural disasters are the direct result of "God's Wrath,"
Gods wrath is to happen after the rapture and the reaping of the first resurrection akjv rev chapter 15 but agree Katrina was more about Gaza a prophetic link to the the coming apocalypse.
I don't hate you but the bible says not to do the same things, think its talking to normal marriage not to lay as a man to a man with your wife thus to leave judgement to God but know the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things. akjv zephaniah 2:4 Thus a lot of wifes husbands like you do such abominations and God sees all thats done in secret. It then says akjv romans 2:5when you harden your heart your treasuring up wrath against thyself against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God which is what were talking about in respect to the apocolypse that the giving up of Gaza is signalling the coming apocolypse.
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A terrible warning: 'Gaza Will Be Forsaken' . . .
Recently the world watched as all the Jews in Gaza were forcibly removed from their homes and their land ... even the dead Jews were forcibly dug up from their graves and removed from Gaza. This 'uprooting' of the Jews from Gaza which the whole world watched on the news may be a much more 'significant' prophetic event than most realize, and the Bible warns there is more to come . . .
In the book of Zephaniah, God warns Gaza would one day 'be forsaken' (yes, that same Gaza you have now been watching on the world news). Gaza is in the land which was given to the tribe of Judah (Joshua 15:1-12), and one of Messiah's titles is "The Lion of the Tribe of Judah." The Bible links the forsaking of Gaza to the coming 'Apocalypse,' which is also called 'The Day of Wrath' and the 'Day of the Lord's Anger."
http://www.alphanewsdaily.com/...1%20Israel%20Jerusalem.html
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Message 22 of 30 (482286)
09-15-2008 6:31 PM
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09-15-2008 5:45 PM


I can assure you that it is the Christian 'god' that is going to look damn stupid, along with all his Christians, on the day of judgement
I just find it interesting as were moving toward the apocalypse you have at CERN starting up one of the largest ever accelerator. Is it safe? Actually it says on the day of judgment after the apocalypse and after the 1000 year reign of Christ from Jerusalem the second death shall have no power. All those that have ever lived that are not of the first resurrection will be resurrected to life at the great judgement before the great white throne. The second death is all that will matter because those of the second resurrection are at risk of being tossed into a lake of fire if they have not accepted Christ the Word as their saviour.
'Big Bang' machine could destroy the planet, says lawsuit
By Tom Leonard in New York
Last Updated: 12:01am BST 01/04/2008
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Message 24 of 30 (482291)
09-15-2008 6:43 PM
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09-15-2008 6:32 PM


None of that tripe consisted of evidence supporting the existence of your deity
Gaza the prophecy that it would be forsaken has been fullfilled. A Prophecy happening that was prophecied thousands of years before it happened. akjv zephaniah 2:4
P.S. Your abomination is just part of all the other abominations that refuse to repent thus bringing on the wrath of God. God pleading for Israel and the world like you is not listening yet when the world takes Jerusalem instead of giving the land to Israel. When the nations of the earth take jerusalem it will be taken at that point in time the Lord will come out of heaven and stand on the mount of olives and the kings of the earth that battle against will be destroyed becoming it says a great supper for the fowl. And from jerusalem shall the saints and the lord reign from jerusalem. akjv zerchariah 14:5
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Message 29 of 30 (482305)
09-15-2008 7:29 PM
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09-15-2008 6:47 PM


At this deity is certainly not the Christian god and it is very much interested in bringing about the end of the world.
Prophecy says not to have other gods but that victory is the Lords. Guess it does not matter the victory is the Lords and Jerusalem shall be taken back from those that refused to listen to the Lords pleadings about the land.
P.S. All you are able to do is tape the superbowl while working and not talk to anyone to not know the outcome before viewing the tape.
Prophecy however is knowing an outcome before it happens or taping the super bowl in the future and watching it before going to work.
This is not possible for man but to God he knows not just the past but the present and the future. We have a God of unlimited power that lays claim to the land of Israel and the world is not listening. Instead all you will find is them mocking, but if the Lord is all powerful is that wise to be listening to the devil,also called the great satan, also called allah, etc...

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