The relationship of Land of Israel and natural disaster judgments

Oh, for fuck's sake, what an utterly stupid topic.Everyone knows all of the hurricanes are punishments from God for tolerating homosexuality!Seriously though, this whole "everything bad that happens must be a punishment from God" meme is old and tired. We know why hurricanes form. We have no reason whatsoever to assume they are manually controlled by some deity whose existence is questionable at best.Hurricanes always follow a specific pattern. Ever wonder why Britain never gets hit with a hurricane? Or Saudi Arabia? It's because the specific meteorological conditions that spawn hurricanes happen in a specific region of the world, and the global winds carry them from east to west where they land somewhere around the Eastern coast of the Americas. They never go from west to east, they never hit anywhere else, and the strength of the storms is the direct result of atmospheric conditions.Are tornadoes punishments from God? I know of several tonadoes that specifically destroyed churches - including fundamentalists who would agree with you.This is nothing mroe than confirmation bias and simple human stupidity and superstition. If something good happens, it's a blessing from God. If something bad happens, it's a punishment. It doesn't matter if we know exactly what caused the event, God is always assumed to be the cause of the cause. In the case of "punishments," it's not uncommon for bigots to insist that God's wrath was visited upon for support of , as was the case with Falwel (I think it was him) blaming Katrina on the gays.

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The fact that these storms have lately been hitting squarely in teh base of the Bible Belt, where most of the fundamentalists tend to live int he first place, as opposed to havens of gay rights supporters or Washington where policy regarding Isreal is actually decided goes compeltely over their heads.

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Anyone who believes natural disasters are punishments from a deity in this day and age is an idiot. No questions asked, no exceptions, no mitigations, if you honestly think that hurricanes are the Wrath of God you are a moron. It was possibly understandable when we had no idea how hurricanes or lightning or earthquakes or tornadoes formed and why such cateclysmic events occurred, but we do have that knowledge now, and there is no excuse for continuing to hold on to the backwards rationalizations of cave men.

Thanks for:1) Admitting that you're a homophobic bigot who thinks homosexuals deserve to be killed.2) Admitting that you're an idiot who willingly accepts stoneage rationalizations for natural disasters over objectively proven explanations.3) Admitting that you have absolutely no argument by ignoring virtually the entirety of my post. I'll re-post it, just for you.Here's what you ignored:

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Seriously though, this whole "everything bad that happens must be a punishment from God" meme is old and tired. We know why hurricanes form. We have no reason whatsoever to assume they are manually controlled by some deity whose existence is questionable at best.

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Hurricanes always follow a specific pattern. Ever wonder why Britain never gets hit with a hurricane? Or Saudi Arabia? It's because the specific meteorological conditions that spawn hurricanes happen in a specific region of the world, and the global winds carry them from east to west where they land somewhere around the Eastern coast of the Americas. They never go from west to east, they never hit anywhere else, and the strength of the storms is the direct result of atmospheric conditions.

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Are tornadoes punishments from God? I know of several tonadoes that specifically destroyed churches - including fundamentalists who would agree with you.

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This is nothing mroe than confirmation bias and simple human stupidity and superstition. If something good happens, it's a blessing from God. If something bad happens, it's a punishment. It doesn't matter if we know exactly what caused the event, God is always assumed to be the cause of the cause. In the case of "punishments," it's not uncommon for bigots to insist that God's wrath was visited upon for support of , as was the case with Falwel (I think it was him) blaming Katrina on the gays.

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The fact that these storms have lately been hitting squarely in teh base of the Bible Belt, where most of the fundamentalists tend to live int he first place, as opposed to havens of gay rights supporters or Washington where policy regarding Isreal is actually decided goes compeltely over their heads.

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Anyone who believes natural disasters are punishments from a deity in this day and age is an idiot. No questions asked, no exceptions, no mitigations, if you honestly think that hurricanes are the Wrath of God you are a moron. It was possibly understandable when we had no idea how hurricanes or lightning or earthquakes or tornadoes formed and why such cateclysmic events occurred, but we do have that knowledge now, and there is no excuse for continuing to hold on to the backwards rationalizations of cave men.

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So, you have no evidence you deity exists, no evidence to support your assertion that natural disasters are the direct result of "God's Wrath," no evidence to support your assertion that the latest hurricanes are specifically due to America's "lack of support for Israel" (despite the fact that we're Isreal's strongest ally), no answer to the fact tat the places that tend to be hit with hurricanes are fundamentalist strongholds rather than centers of anti-Israel or pro-gay-rights supporters, and no response to the assertion that only idiots take the ignorant rationalizations of cave men over the objectively proven models of modern science.Forgive the run-on sentence, but there was a lot of stuff you ignored. Is your attemtion span so short you can't read beyond a couple of sentences? That would explain why you feel the need to use "goddidit" and "godspissed" to explain well-understood meteorological phenomenon. Of course, I still maintain that the reason you ignored the remainder was because you have no answer to any of it, and are dealing with an opposing argument by simply pretending it isn't there. It's a classic fundamentalist tactic, but when the conversation is in writing so that everyone can see what you ignored, it only makes you look like an idiot. Funny how so many things are simultaneously making you look like a fool. If it looks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck...

None of that tripe consisted of evidence supporting the existence of your deity or your idea that hurricanes are punishments sent from that deity.Further, you continued to ignore the vast majority of my post for a second time. It seems to me you aren't here for debate, but rather to preach your homphobic bigoted anti-intelligence bullshit.So, we know you're a bigot who thinks gay people deserve to die in a hurricane. You haven't disputed this - you responded with a "justification" by essencially saying that "otherwise morally abhorrent things are A-Okay if God does it," which basically means your religion is simply your outlet for your disgusting bigotry. You're correct that the Bible actuively supports such disgusting "morality," but then many (most?) Christians manage to have their faith without being homophobic or racist, whereas you grab onto the Fred Phelps "God punishes America for tolerating FAGS!!!!" drivel.We also know that you "debate" by ignoring anything you disagree with, which means you're a willfully ignorant blowhard who's here to preach rather than discuss.And of course we know that you don't even comprehend the word "evidence" or how to go about supporting an argument aside from spewing out Bible verses, not even really tying those verses in with anything in reality to show how your natural disasters are directly related to them.You're just a moron, john. I'm surprised you haven't been banned yet, honestly, since your posts typically contain no content beyond the rantings of an ignorant madman with delusions of grandeur.You honestly believe (I can't use the word "think" with you, as you seem incapable of thinking) that hurricanes that strike strongholds of pro-Israel and anti-gay sentiments are punishments for anti-Israel and anti-gay sentiments. You're no better than Ray with his astoundingly stupid "the widespread acceptance of evolution is a punishment from God for the widespread acceptance of evolution" bullshit.You ignore the fact that the formation and behavior of hurricanes and other natural disasters are very, very well-known, and insist that your magical genocidal sky-pixie is instead responsible, because he'd be really pissed off at America right now. Or so you insist - I imagine it's difficult for fictional entities to be angry.I'm sure you beleive that lightning strikes are the "Wrath of God" as well, rather than a well-understood electrical phenomenon. Earthquakes tend to strike San Francisco because of all the gay people, not the fault line, right? I'm sure Tornado Alley happens to go right through the Bible Belt because those people aren't real Christians, right? It cant be due to well-understood seasonal atmospheric behavior, natural disasters must be sent by God!All that sciency-stuff is just a lie from the devil, right? Except for the occasional whacko you think agrees with you...then science is okay.So at what point exactly after all of this apocalyptic nonsense about the Rapture and other Revleations-type events do we get to say "see, you were wrong?" Oh, wait, that's right - you aren't being objective, you aren't willing to accept contrary evidence or even respond to a contrary argument, and you'll never critically examine your own beliefs, because that's not what you do with faith-based apocalyptic nonsense. Instead, you'll ignore anyone with an IQ higher than freezing, pick individual sentences from full-length posts, and continue to re-post the same idiotic nonsense ad nauseum.After all, you have God on your side, right? That means you can't possibly be wrong, and the rest of us are just heathen unbelievers who will be cast into the eternal fire, along with the gays who rightfully deserve to be murdered and tortured for eternity for having dared engage in that icky, icky buttsex!Idiot. Enjoy wallowing in your own self-indulgent bigoted ignorance and stupidity.

It's Gozer, isn't it. Are you the keymaster? What form will the Traveller take?!