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Syamsu  Suspended Member (Idle past 5620 days) Posts: 1914 From: amsterdam Joined: |
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Syamsu  Suspended Member (Idle past 5620 days) Posts: 1914 From: amsterdam Joined: |
Look in the link in post 1, use the references in that paper.
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Syamsu  Suspended Member (Idle past 5620 days) Posts: 1914 From: amsterdam Joined: |
There seems to be little difference between what you write now, and your philosophical meanderings in th evolution of consciousness thread.
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Syamsu  Suspended Member (Idle past 5620 days) Posts: 1914 From: amsterdam Joined: |
You can just enter it in your meandering thread about the evolution of consciousness which presents your actual knowledge of freedom.
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Syamsu  Suspended Member (Idle past 5620 days) Posts: 1914 From: amsterdam Joined: |
Its incomprehensible to me. Alternatives in the future I understand well enough since I use that logic all the time in daily life in making decisions.
Hyperincursive math is more difficult, but Dubois provides examples and tries to use basic language in explaining it. So I can grasp the basic principles of it, which also make sense, because they are much consistent with creationism. At first I set out to analyze the structure in common knowledge about freedom. No philosophical meandering like you engage in, but the practical knowledge I use when buying groceries or anything. So that is why I end up with strong logic, logic that is practically useful. And once the logic is accepted, it follows that everything is decided, just as like materialists think everything is caused. Including toothbrushes, which are either in a state of alternatives prior to entering the bathroom, or their state is decided of themselves. I prefer the last.
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Syamsu  Suspended Member (Idle past 5620 days) Posts: 1914 From: amsterdam Joined: |
This is not parody anymore, you have to refer to instants as true according to common knowledge now.
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Syamsu  Suspended Member (Idle past 5620 days) Posts: 1914 From: amsterdam Joined: |
No for example, at first I was convinced that decisions had a location, and at this location is nothing. Then I found a paper saying decisions come from nothing and are nowhere. I then adopted the finding of the paper as best I can. Apparently we cant have decisions be predertimined by position either, so that must also be zero.
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Syamsu  Suspended Member (Idle past 5620 days) Posts: 1914 From: amsterdam Joined: |
Well I do experience instants yes. But I think you are not true to the evidence of the experience, and the practical use of the knowledge of instants. For example, according to common knowledge one can decide in an instant, and I can experience it. But you say instants exclude decisions.
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Syamsu  Suspended Member (Idle past 5620 days) Posts: 1914 From: amsterdam Joined: |
But as before, your logic is not consistent with common knowledge about instants. You should first formalize the common knowledge, then try to make it fit. It is also not within my experience that decisions are borne of instants, so I have no evidence for it. Deciding alternatives that are in the future is the knowledge we use. We do not seem to use illusionary decisions borne of instances at al in common knowledge. But I like your idea of timelines, maybe you are getting somewhere.
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Syamsu  Suspended Member (Idle past 5620 days) Posts: 1914 From: amsterdam Joined: |
You should use the science theory subservient to the evidence of direct experience, but you are doing the reverse. You are also making common knowledge subservient to your theory, instead of the reverse.
In any case, if you would present an analysis of the logic of instants, as it is used in common knowledge, formalize it, derive general principles, clean it up to essential parts, then Im sure you would get something worthwile.
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Syamsu  Suspended Member (Idle past 5620 days) Posts: 1914 From: amsterdam Joined: |
You are still not getting it. You must use the actual phrases in common knowledge, the structure of them. So you should describe what a person might have said when forgetting their carkeys. Then analyze the logical structure of what is said.
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Syamsu  Suspended Member (Idle past 5620 days) Posts: 1914 From: amsterdam Joined: |
That phrase seems to have no relationship to instants whatsoever.
Eddington who somebody else referenced also argued from experience. And then he said that the future is where randomness is, while the past is only one way. So you see the way I evidence and construct knowledge is an established practice.
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Syamsu  Suspended Member (Idle past 5620 days) Posts: 1914 From: amsterdam Joined: |
I thought you didnt have a decisionmaking capacity, that it was an illusional effect of instants. That is exactly what many scientists say that free will is an illusion, for which there is no evidence.
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Syamsu  Suspended Member (Idle past 5620 days) Posts: 1914 From: amsterdam Joined: |
And the paper referenced in the original posting substantiates that evolution occurs through reasoned and informed decisions.
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Syamsu  Suspended Member (Idle past 5620 days) Posts: 1914 From: amsterdam Joined: |
I admit descent with modification yes. But as explained, since everything is by decision, just as in previous science everything was by causes, everybody in science will become a creationist.
And as explained, admitting descent with modification, still means I believe the classes of organisms were created at or near the start of the universe. The classes were reasonably in the future at that point, and the future is real, it has an actual informationcontent. When it becomes likely that is the origin, and that is always a decision.
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