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no2creation
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Message 16 of 18 (4681)
02-16-2002 1:55 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by joz
02-16-2002 12:09 AM


This maybe the wrong forum to post my question but I thought I'd give a shot here anyways.
If God Created the world to appear 4.5 billion years old, when if fact its only around 6000years. Then this is like creating a new car and adding the rust? Wow what an idea for Ford and Gm, I think God was on to something! Whats the advantage to this. Furthermore, isn't he lieing to us, or atleast trying to decive us...Gods a sinner then!

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littlejimberry
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Message 17 of 18 (4782)
02-16-2002 8:27 PM
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02-16-2002 1:55 AM


I hope that this will answer your question. It is also believed that the stars are millions upon millions of years old. Because it takes thousands and millions of years for the light to reach us. Right? The age of the stars co-inside with the age of the earth. If you can, just for a moment, consider that God did create the heavens (universe), the earth, and man. It states in the Bible that God created man as a man, not as a child. So my belief is that when God created the stars, (along with the earth), he created them in the same manner that he created man, as a mature object, not a young one. You see, when God created the stars, some were created as mature stars, that is why we see their light now, without having to wait for such a long time. Thus the misunderstanding of the true age of the stars. The earth was created in the same way, as a mature earth, and in the same way he created man, as a man. We know that God created man this way (and that He did create man) because the Bible has endured thousands of years of copying and re-righting. But you would think that some things in the bible would change, right? Wrong, since the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls in 100 BC, we can compare the scrolls to the modern day bible, they are almost identical, therefore, we know that the Bible is a credible source due to the fact that it has endured in it's entirety for hundreds of years.
I don’t believe that God is, or has tried to fool us. Rather, he has placed obstacles such as an seemingly old earth and universe before us, in order for us to put our faith in Him. He did that so He can show us the true way, and for us to totally rely on Him for our answers. He does want us to come to Him but in order to find Him we need to seek Him out through our faith and try to overlook the common misunderstandings of the universe.

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no2creation
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Message 18 of 18 (4783)
02-16-2002 8:38 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by littlejimberry
02-16-2002 8:27 PM


quote:
Originally posted by littlejimberry:
I hope that this will answer your question. It is also believed that the stars are millions upon millions of years old. Because it takes thousands and millions of years for the light to reach us. Right? The age of the stars co-inside with the age of the earth. If you can, just for a moment, consider that God did create the heavens (universe), the earth, and man. It states in the Bible that God created man as a man, not as a child. So my belief is that when God created the stars, (along with the earth), he created them in the same manner that he created man, as a mature object, not a young one. You see, when God created the stars, some were created as mature stars, that is why we see their light now, without having to wait for such a long time. Thus the misunderstanding of the true age of the stars. The earth was created in the same way, as a mature earth, and in the same way he created man, as a man. We know that God created man this way (and that He did create man) because the Bible has endured thousands of years of copying and re-righting. But you would think that some things in the bible would change, right? Wrong, since the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls in 100 BC, we can compare the scrolls to the modern day bible, they are almost identical, therefore, we know that the Bible is a credible source due to the fact that it has endured in it's entirety for hundreds of years.
I don’t believe that God is, or has tried to fool us. Rather, he has placed obstacles such as an seemingly old earth and universe before us, in order for us to put our faith in Him. He did that so He can show us the true way, and for us to totally rely on Him for our answers. He does want us to come to Him but in order to find Him we need to seek Him out through our faith and try to overlook the common misunderstandings of the universe.

So God does not lead by example then... If he did, that would mean it would be ok for me to lie. Say I told you to fall backwards and that I was going to catch you. Knowing full well I have no intention to do so. Now you fall flat on your back. This would be okay, because I was testing your faith in me. Keep in mind that I learned this from God. If God has to test our faith in him, then I am sure he could do so without deception...
If God is 'The all knowing' meaning that he knows everything, then he already knows whether we have faith in him, and doesn't need to test our faith.
[This message has been edited by no2creation, 02-16-2002]

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