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Coyote
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Message 3 of 32 (475185)
07-13-2008 10:11 PM
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07-13-2008 9:45 PM


Degree in English
I ended up with a BA in English--switched from Chemistry.
Not much you can do with a BA in English; I ended up working in a sports shop.
But then I discovered the field I really liked, and that English degree came in handy. The education in reading and writing, along with a huge amount of good literature, was invaluable.
But the degree in English will most likely be a steppingstone, rather than a goal.

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Message 5 of 32 (475193)
07-13-2008 11:27 PM
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07-13-2008 10:57 PM


Re: Degree in English
Where: This was 40 years ago, so I don't think schools will be the same as they were then.
Courses: I did things a little backwards, being a transfer from another department. I started with the seminar courses (more interesting) and ended with the lower division mass-market courses (horrid). I took the courses I liked, all fiction, and ended up mostly with British literature. I avoided American literature completely as my ideas didn't match those of the professors. I still have never read anything by Faulkner or Hemingway.
My field: Archaeology. I also did a lot of evolution/osteology/human races/anatomy and related subjects in graduate school.
Learning to write well is invaluable. I have had a few chuckles because of it, such as the time I rewrote a lawyer's brief for him (we were working on a case together for a local non-profit). His original brief was horrible, and I really whacked it up for him. It ended up much better, and actually readable.
Hope this helps.

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Message 7 of 32 (475199)
07-14-2008 12:05 AM
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07-13-2008 11:46 PM


Re: Degree in English
Sorry to pry, but if I may ask, which ideas in particular? Was it simply disdain for Faulkner and Hemingway?
My tastes in American literature ran to Steinbeck, Poe, Bierce and Lovecraft, as well as science fiction; definitely not the material to be appreciated by most academics back then. They preferred writers such as Austen and Alcott.
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Message 13 of 32 (475440)
07-15-2008 9:31 PM
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07-15-2008 3:51 PM


Re: Degree in English
I would prefer not to specify on the web, but it was a major university in the western US. And it was several decades ago.
The emphasis was on what I would call hands-on archaeology, with at least introductory training in all of the related fields (including soils, pollen, bones--both human and animal, stone tool making and technology, paleoenvironmental analysis and several others).

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Message 17 of 32 (476082)
07-21-2008 12:40 AM
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07-16-2008 4:07 AM


Re: Exposure
But, again, this Ivy league vs. state college has me a bit dispirited. I see myself waxing archaeological exhibits in a museum, and would much rather partake in digs (If I have offended you coyote, my apologies).
No offense here, as I don't do waxing, and there is a place in archaeology where you don't have to do any of that.
Research the subspecialty within archaeology called Cultural Resources Management. A number of colleges are now offering MA degrees in Anthropology with a CRM specialty.
As a CRN specialist you do the management work required by the environmental regulations, and can either be in private practice or work for a government agency. BLM and the US Forest Service have major programs, but they are just two of many agencies out there who need to have CRM folks on board.
Check it out!

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Message 21 of 32 (476169)
07-21-2008 5:09 PM
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07-21-2008 2:59 AM


Re: Exposure
This can be a likely path to pursue. It's a fairly new field of education, and can also pan out into a satisfying and enjoyable career. It seems right up my alley.
This is a large part of what I do for a living, so if you have questions feel free to ask.

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Message 25 of 32 (476262)
07-22-2008 11:26 AM
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07-22-2008 3:43 AM


My Life is in Ruins
1) If CRM is a large part of what you do, is the small part also related to archaeology in some fashion?
CRM, as I do it, is archaeology. We do field survey and reports. If there is a resource we try to get it protected. If it can't be avoided we do an evaluation (test excavation) possibly followed by mitigation (data recovery excavation). All of this is followed by laboratory analysis, research and reports.
2) I read an article recently that Walmart, after great debate and protest, built a store on a Hawaiian(?) sacred, burial ground. Do you presume CRM's were there investigating, and possibly protesting, with the Hawaiian's?
I would think that it was archaeologists who found and identified the site, and determined what its significance was. I doubt the archaeologists were in there protesting, as they have to maintain a professional decorum, but I am sure their reports recommended preservation.
3) Why did you choose archaeology? Was it an epiphany or gradual, and by degrees? Were you following in one of your family members' footsteps? Did an erudite professor inspire you to elect archaeology?
I got to go on an amateur excavation, and was hooked.
4) When you chose your major, did you consider strongly the job prospects and internship capabilities? Did you know what specific field you wanted to pursue, or did you choose your major and leave the internship and career option open for later inspection?
No, I didn't discover archaeology until after I had a BA in English.
I searched this database here and this quieted me a bit about choosing anthropology or archaeology. The job market seems slim.
I wouldn't recommend it as a way to make a lot of money. But if you really like it that's reward enough.
5) What is a "typical day" like, if typical even exists, in the shoes of a professional CRM? I imagine it's very loose and unpredictable.
Most of my day is reading and writing reports, and managing my staff. A few times a year we might do a short excavation, and maybe once a year a major excavation. This will vary greatly among archaeologists depending on where they work and what level they are at. Some archaeological technicians may be in the field most of the year.
For more information look up the Register of Professional Archaeologists and see if there are any in your neighborhood you can call up and talk to.

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Message 32 of 32 (476511)
07-24-2008 11:52 AM
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07-24-2008 3:48 AM


Re: Counseling
No apologies needed here!
I have been busy, and don't always get a chance to reply or even read all of the threads.

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