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Author Topic:   Theories of Cosmological Origins: Are They Science?
bluegenes
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Message 9 of 115 (460695)
03-18-2008 5:06 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by ICANT
03-18-2008 12:45 AM


Re: Theories of Cosmological Origins: Are They Science?
ICANT writes:
Anything that is there has to be assumed, believed to be there, faith that it is there. Because there is no evidence that anything is there.
All you seem to be saying is that no-one knows the ultimate origins of the universe, which is exactly what the physicists are telling you.
Are you trying to imply that people need faith to know that they don't know something? Do you need faith to know that you don't know my real name?
If not, then what's your point? No-one needs to have faith about the ultimate origins of the universe. It's something religious people do, but if sane and honest people don't know something, they say that they don't know.
Evidence based beliefs do not require faith, but that doesn't mean they are necessarily right, or 100% sure. For example, ancient cultures believing that the sun goes round the earth were doing so completely reasonably, on the basis of observation. They were not doing so based on blind faith, even though they turned out to be wrong. If, however, they believed that the sun was the sun God driving his chariot of fire round the earth, that would be faith based, because they had no observations or evidence for it at all.
I think what you may be doing is trying to reduce science to the level of your own faith based superstitions. You're wrong. Your religion is on the same level as the belief in the sun God. Just like the sun God belief, it is evidence-less, and therefore no more or less likely to be true.
You could try honesty, for a change, and give up your religion, but I doubt if you will. Honesty, after all, wouldn't be so comfortable for you, would it? Try to be honest with yourself about this.

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