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pelican Member (Idle past 5015 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: |
The following paragraph demonstrates correct spelling is not paramount to good communication, if the reader can read it.
More Brain Stuff . . From Cambridge University . Olny srmat poelpe can raed tihs.I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt! Many many times my spelling has been corrected by other members. I realize correct spelling is important to some, even to the point of obsession. However, if the word is recognizable and in context, what is the big problem?
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pelican Member (Idle past 5015 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: |
Third, most people learn from experience that lower quality writing and spelling often accompany lower quality thinking. This is absurd. Thinking has nothing to do with literacy.
There's really no excuse. Isn't this just from your judgement? This is the point. Is it so important when there is nothing lost in communicating ideas?In my experience accurate spelling does not improve communication.
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pelican Member (Idle past 5015 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: |
I would argue that the example above requires that an exemplar of each word exists as a "correct" form. The example is readable because we make mental references to these correctly spelled exemplars. Yes this could be true if the mind is trained in this way. You may see a word incorrectly spelled and immediately image the correct spelling of the word. But how would someone who does not have all the correct spellings (eg, like the person who wrote it) read it?
In order to ensure clarity in expression it is best to use the exemplar spelling. Isn't it the words themselves that ensure clarity? I understood the example I gave perfectly, did you?
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pelican Member (Idle past 5015 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: |
For one thing, it takes considerable more time and thought to read that passage. Maybe someone who is functionally illiterate, so even correctly spelled passages take time and effort to read, won't notice, but those of us who are literate do notice a big, big difference in how easy it is to read a passage like that. Absolutely, it does take more time and effort to read and it is not as easy! In truth it only takes a little patience and a lot less judgement and frustration!
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pelican Member (Idle past 5015 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: |
double post
Edited by pelican, : Double post
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pelican Member (Idle past 5015 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: |
presentation, Subconsciously Not that it matters or is of any importance but did you know putting a capital letter after a comma is bad grammar? Edited by pelican, : No reason given.
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pelican Member (Idle past 5015 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: |
This is an online forum. Unlike real life, we have absolutely nothing to go on except your words. And since we have absolutely nothing to go on by except your words, everytime you get sloppy with your words result in a loss of communicating idea somewhere. Were you able to read and understand the misspelled passage in the OP? If you did, do you think there was anything lost in communicating the idea it presented?
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pelican Member (Idle past 5015 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: |
I read the passage perfectly well enough and pretty well as fast as I read anything else, quickly. After reading a few words without difficulty, I sort of read on, under the presumption that I would not encounter any difficult concept and since there was not one in there, that made getting it read for certain probably easier than some "random" paragraph posted onto EvC. Well that is the problem, because you assumed there was no concept, you did not see one, but it is there.
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pelican Member (Idle past 5015 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: |
I asked what was the "Problem" with incorrect spelling when you can clearly understand it. Perhaps you did not understand the concept.
It really was part of a research project at Cambridge University and it seems clear evreyone can read the words, but no idea of the point it is making that supports my concept. YES! It may take a little longer to read and may take a little effort but a lot more time for those learning to spell and type in order to be heard.
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pelican Member (Idle past 5015 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: |
What people like me have a problem with is the persistence to misspell and make grammatical errors on the conscious level. By conscious, I mean the decision to not care how well your messages are written. Why should it bother anyone enough to make a judgement of "they don't care?" Why has my spelling been pointed out to me many times when it distracted nothing from the point and the only point made in the reply is my spelling? Maybe it gives the reader an opportunity to bitch.
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pelican Member (Idle past 5015 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: |
Absurd or not, sloppy mechanics conveys the perception of a sloppy mind to one's audience. I suppose it depends on one's audience.
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pelican Member (Idle past 5015 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: |
Yes, I had a nomination but that still doesn't stop others from pointing out my spelling mistakes, making an issue out of them and ignoring the point I made in the 1st place.
That is the process I am familiar with on this forum. It doesn't happen on another forum I frequent. This begged the question of 'why does it matter so much for some on this forum'? Being corrected has never offended me. I don't have an inferiority complex about my abilities. I was trying to show how focus on insignificant details distracts from the content. Also that the focus on correctness closes the mind. Maybe if you re-read the misplet OP without judgement, it would mean something else entirely.
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pelican Member (Idle past 5015 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: |
Because it is problematic to read. While it "can" be read, it is not "easy" to read. Because so much time is spent having to decode what it is that you said, it distracts from what you are trying to say. Did you have a problem reading the mispelled passage in the OP? I only read this the other day myself and I was amused to find how easily I did read it. I thought the concept offered by this research was true.
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pelican Member (Idle past 5015 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: |
double post
Edited by pelican, : No reason given.
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pelican Member (Idle past 5015 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: |
If patience is a virtue, as you claim, we should all show how virtuous we are by having the patience to check our posts before submitting them! Your spelling and grammar seems fine. Do you have a content checker? It checks to see if you are on topic or not. E.G...the following are off topic........
sloppy posting, incoherent post, Is that last sentence there to illustrate that spelling is not your only problem? Can't children learn to read and write on children's discussion boards, and then graduate to sites like this? For example, if it takes someone more than five minutes to figure out that capitalizing at the beginning of sentences makes it much easier for the reader to distinguish one sentence from another, then who wants to hear their thoughts on complex evolution/creation issues anyway And this........
The question for such people is not really whether or not they descended from apes, but whether or not they might soon be overtaken by them. Very Naughty !!!
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