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Chiroptera
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Message 5 of 18 (456568)
02-18-2008 8:56 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by BMG
02-18-2008 4:33 PM


The IRS uses the 16th amendment in support of their belief that we must pay income taxes....
I don't know what to make of this statement. The IRS is a government agency established by Congress, like other agencies, in order to execute the laws passed by Congress.
The 16th Amendment to the Constitution explicitly states that Congress can establish a tax on income even when such a tax will not be apportioned among the states according to their populations. Congress has passed laws that states people in the US must pay a tax based on their income, which is allowed by the 16th Amendment. The IRS is simply an agency empowered by Congress to make sure that the tax laws are carried out.
Like subbie, I'm not inclined to watch a video that I'm pretty sure is going to be Hovindesque* in its nuttiness unless someone can give a compelling reason to do so. What, exactly, is the problem with the IRS supposed to be?
Edited by Chiroptera, : *Damn! Coragyps beat me to this!

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Haven't you always wanted a monkey?
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Chiroptera
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Message 7 of 18 (456586)
02-18-2008 11:08 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by obvious Child
02-18-2008 10:21 PM


One can see where that mistake may have come from, however. The privately owned member banks of the Federal Reserve System do own shares in their regional Federal Reserve Bank. But that only makes them a small part of the decision making. And the Federal Reserve System is governed over-all by a government appointed Board of Governors.
So I can see how a propagandist could come up with the idea of the Federal Reserve being privately owned, but it's just not true.

If I had a million dollars, I'd buy you a monkey.
Haven't you always wanted a monkey?
-- The Barenaked Ladies

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Chiroptera
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Message 12 of 18 (456716)
02-19-2008 5:16 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by BMG
02-19-2008 1:43 AM


This part 4 of the documentary is the one, if you were to watch only one of the parts, is the one I would like you to analyze.
I hope that I didn't come off as too snarky, Infixion. If I did, I didn't mean to; I just find watching videos tedious and dull -- I much prefer print sources. I can more quickly skim them to see whether they're worth more careful perusal, and quickly find the relevant points. Of course, if the video is what you found then that's that -- I'm just explaining why I need someone to really convince me that I need to watch the video before I'll commit myself to it. Maybe I'll have time to view it tonight.

If I had a million dollars, I'd buy you a monkey.
Haven't you always wanted a monkey?
-- The Barenaked Ladies

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Chiroptera
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Message 17 of 18 (456893)
02-20-2008 3:52 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Taz
02-20-2008 3:25 PM


We won't be able to pay people to waterboard swarthy bearded men, and the terrorists will win.

If I had a million dollars, I'd buy you a monkey.
Haven't you always wanted a monkey?
-- The Barenaked Ladies

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