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Message 4 of 24 (448437)
01-13-2008 2:30 PM
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01-13-2008 11:03 AM


Re: This side of the pond
A very obvious (and often stated) conclusion is that it is a real shame that the first female and the first black presidential candidates should be opposing each other.
why? it's a primary. why shouldn't they run against each other just like every other candidate in every other primary? and she's not the first woman candidate.

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Message 10 of 24 (448476)
01-13-2008 6:53 PM
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01-13-2008 5:14 PM


Re: This side of the pond
Just that it is a shame that it is the the first time that candidates with a realistic chance of the presidency from two different obviously under represented groups (in historical presidential terms) should be simultaneously trying to make that breakthrough.
why? it's not surprising. women and blacks have kind of always been competing for representation. women were very close to getting the vote in the late 1800s and they gave it to blacks instead. great that they got it, sucks we didn't get it too. of course, they didn't really get the vote yet. that's how it goes. i think it's great that they're going for it at the same time. it should be even more apparent whether we're ready for this. and by this i mean to vote for people based on their qualifications and policy. of course, we don't vote for white men based on qualifications and policy, either, so i don't know what i'm expecting.
Who was the fist woman candidate
women presidential and vice presidential candidates in us history.
there have been 34 runnings of women in elections for president. a few of these are repeats.
has any woman ever had a real chance at winning previously?
depends on what you mean by "real chance". as far as i know, none has ever gotten a party nomination. but this isn't something i'm overly aware of.

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Message 12 of 24 (448512)
01-13-2008 8:58 PM
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01-13-2008 7:25 PM


Re: This side of the pond
see how it says VP? yeah. she wasn't the presidential candidate. we don't elect vice presidents. we choose a presidential candidate and they select a vice president. sometimes it's a runner up in the primary, but not always.

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Message 14 of 24 (448524)
01-13-2008 9:34 PM
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01-13-2008 9:18 PM


Re: This side of the pond
no. parties don't nominate vice presidents. nominees choose their running mates after the nomination. also, we were talking about PRESIDENT, not vice president. as long as the president doesn't get offed (and few do), the vice president is basically a senate member.

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Message 16 of 24 (448540)
01-13-2008 10:33 PM
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01-13-2008 10:18 PM


Re: This side of the pond
yes, but VICE PRESIDENTS DON'T RECEIVE A NOMINATION. no woman has ever been nominated to be the presidential candidate for the president. it's not my fault the source ALSO discusses vice presidents. your failure to think on-topic is not my fault.

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Message 18 of 24 (448547)
01-13-2008 10:54 PM
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01-13-2008 10:51 PM


Re: This side of the pond
no. vice presidents are not nominated. at all. i don't know where that wiki article got it's information.
but i was talking about THE FUCKING PRESIDENT, so stay on topic.

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