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nator Member (Idle past 2192 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Eve wasn't born. God created her at the same time as Adam:
1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
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sidelined Member (Idle past 5930 days) Posts: 3435 From: Edmonton Alberta Canada Joined: |
Buzsaw
The problem with this statement is that God created just one and only one man. That's it. The rest of humanity have been born or procreated from that one created man via the birth process from that one created man. Except that there is no genetic contribution left from that man in any of the possible descendants alive today.
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.6 |
Hi Buzsaw,
No just been real busy with the church, holidays year forward planning just have not had time and am very limited now.
Buzsaw writes: The problem with this statement is that God created just one and only one man. That's it. The rest of humanity have been born or procreated from that one created man via the birth process from that one created man. Buz I have a closed thread on by beliefs concerning what I posted here if you would check it out I would appreciate it. If I go into it here we will be so far off topic Percy will scream and I will be able to hear him here in Florida. Look at it if you want to discuss it I would love to but we would have to start a thread for that. It is:The Literal Genesis Account of Creation Have fun, "John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
I know that, madear. My statement pertained to Adam, the man.
BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
The genetic contribution is human life itself through procreation down through the centuries. Were it not for the first man we wouldn't exist as per the Biblical record. Right?
BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3690 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
Yes, I agree the term descendent is more appropriate than predesessor, and this refers to the first and only time the word 'created' is used - which is in Gen 1/1. There is no predesessor of speech endowed humans - we know this is true despite the millions of years of precedent life forms. Thus Genesis uses the term 'GENERATIONS' of Adam; here, adam = human; it becomes a pronoun with the first recorded dialogue.
Edited by IamJoseph, : No reason given.
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3690 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
'SPEECH'. This is a relavtively new phenomnon in the known universe.
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3690 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
quote: I don't see it that way. Procreation would not happen unless a precedent design or program was in place, and the procreating entities were in total interacting allignment with each other. The hovering intergration factor rules, and this negates any random.
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.6 |
Hi Joseph,
'SPEECH'. This is a relavtively new phenomnon in the known universe. How old is God? "John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3690 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
You will see that the only true definition of 'infinite' is that which is not subject to change, namely, 'I AM THE LORD I HAVE NOT CHANGED' [Ex]. And since nothing can pass this test, it's subsequent claim is also correct, namely 'I AM THE LORD THERE IS NO OTHER'.
Even light, which is regarded as the only known entity which is ageless, is subject to change: in its intensity, and when it is switched off.
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.6 |
Hi Joseph,
You will see that the only true definition of 'infinite' is that which is not subject to change, namely, 'I AM THE LORD I HAVE NOT CHANGED' I am going out on a limb here and say I believe God could speak as he carried on a conversation with the first man in the garden. That means speech has been around as long as God has. Have fun, "John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3690 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
LOL. Yes, the first dialogue is in genesis, and so is the first 'action', namely the command, AND GOD SAID LET THERE BE LIGHT. The word * SAID* refers to speech. Even all of man's works is consequent to speech, [The word] - the only factor separating us from all others. Science is derived from speech.
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nator Member (Idle past 2192 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: But you said:
quote: "The rest of humanity" includes Eve, doesn't it? Eve wasn't born "via the birth process", but was created by God at the same time Adam was. Therefore, it isn't accurate for you to say what I quoted above. Just sayin'. Edited by nator, : fixed quote box
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
Please explain. You don't make sense to me.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
Eve was not a man. I didn't say mankind. Adam was the first man created from earth/dust. Eve, the first woman was created from Adam; Adam being the first human, i.e. man created. Get it?
BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.
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