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AdminNem Inactive Member |
You poor pathetic fuck with worms in your head. Simmer down, Omni. What he said really pissed me off too, and no doubt was uncalled for. But there is no sense in you joining the exiles. Try to contain your disdain, or at least express it minus the epithets.
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AdminNem Inactive Member |
Admins should be embarrassed at this decision, you let Faith and other morons away with offence after offence and then ban Jar for stating a fact. Whoever banned jar for this should feel ashamed at their blatant discrimination. Brian, Jar was not banned, he was suspended. And Faith has not been allowed to return. There is only talk of it currently.
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AdminNem Inactive Member |
I'm sure this question has surfaced many times unbeknownst to me, but I was wondering why we no longer consign problem posters to Limbo any more, as opposed to Showcase.
Why is this?
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AdminNem Inactive Member |
I disagree with his decision labelling pointmanzero's topic as not a topic. This board has promoted similar arguments in the past, both for creo and evo positions. I don't understand why you are objecting to that. Requesting a list of creationist arguments is not a topic. There's no argumentum, there's no question, there is nothing to discuss other than doing all the work for his class. I then provided him a link where he can get all of the creationist arguments in a single source. What's the problem? http://EvC Forum: I need a list of all creationist arguments. -->EvC Forum: I need a list of all creationist arguments. Edited by AdminNem, : No reason given.
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AdminNem Inactive Member |
You should get an admin warning for that. Sure thing. Nemesis Juggernaut, your tone, which appears to me to be jocular and playful, could be construed as condescending by people with sensitive feelings. One more outburst and your posting privilege's will be suspended. This is an official warning.
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AdminNem Inactive Member |
Oh, that's it NJ!!! You're outta here!
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AdminNem Inactive Member |
I'll agree with you that CS's post was purely abusive, adding nothing to discourse. Though I would note Crash's post really wasn't much better. While I also agree, it is really ultimately a moot point. Your own quote (which I enjoy, btw) expresses why in many ways it might be worse.
If swearing was allowed then I wouldn't have thought anything about it. That kind of stuff doesn't bother me, other than its not very useful. Expletives aren't allowed or disallowed in and of themselves. Its all about context. While somebody yelling "f***" to express their displeasure might be considered tasteless, it usually is allowed without any challenge. But when somebody yells at someone else, it is a different story.
I was just surprised, given that I thought that was verboten around here, he didn't even get a verbal warning. And then to see to see CA get the whammy so quick and it suggested that CS owes brenna an apology... well okay then, I'd like mine! Heheheh. CS should have, and was, promptly suspended over his egregious use of ad hom. You are right to have been taken back by the lack of a warning given to Crash. I personally would have issued a warning, but I wouldn't have suspended him. I wasn't aware that he even said it, otherwise I would have.
Your point is noted, but then the rules might be made clearer. Is swearing allowed at all, or at others, given sufficient argument otherwise? You're right. The rules are a bit subjective here. There seems to be no concrete guideline concerning it. However, it is my understanding that it expletives are only disallowed given the context of their usage.
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AdminNem Inactive Member |
MBG,
You brought your grievance to the Mod forum, which is great, in search of an answer. You've been answered. Whether or not the verdict was to your liking is now immaterial at this point. I also happen to agree with AdminPD. While I'm sure you'll just throw out the "bias" card, it would be well with you to know that you are in no position to talk about personal bias or critique others on lengthy copy and pastes. Instead of hounding AdminPD and accusing her of bias when things don't go exactly the way you'd hoped, wait around until more Admins give their opinion. You might find one or two that agree with you.
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AdminNem Inactive Member |
PD specifically asked me to support my contention that she is biased. I did so. You are certainly welcome to believe that AdminPD is exhibiting a bias, however, it would do more to advance your assertion by giving possible motives. If she is exhibiting a bias while in her admin status, what is she gaining by doing so?
I am not a moderator. I can exhibit whatever bias I wish. AdminPD is a very good moderator in my estimation. She is so good, in fact, that I honestly can't make heads or tails of almost any of her personal feelings on just about any given topic. I wouldn't know if she would characterize herself as an evolutionist or a creationist, pro-choice or pro-life, etc. Quite frankly, I don't care what she believes in because she does an excellent job of detaching herself from personal issues, which speaks of her impartiality. Some members on the forum who are in an admin role participate almost solely as a moderator as opposed to an average member who posits any given philosophical or scientific position. (AdminPD, AdminAsgara, AdminMoose to name a few). I appreciate that sort of detachment because it does not cloud their judgment. I enjoy debate too much to distance myself only as a moderator. I'm glad there are some at EvC who choose to take up this role. For clarification, do you think she is coming to the aid of Buz? If so, what is she gaining by it? Is it so inconceivable that what she said is her honest opinion rather than bias?
Unlike some, I provide support for my assertions. You often provide a paragraph to substantiate any given one sentence blurb. That is neither here nor there right now. I only mention it because it seems rather hypocritical to chastise someone for doing the very same thing you are doing. I would like to get at the heart of your grievance. Detail your grievance and what actions you would like a moderator to take against Buzsaw. We can go from there. Or you can take Jar's advice and just let it go for something of more substance. As a member, you have a right to lodge a complaint about Buz or PD. I am not trying to dissuade from doing so. But I need more to go on.
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