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Author Topic:   The soul -- does it exist?
mark24
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Message 5 of 15 (4373)
02-13-2002 6:11 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by KingPenguin
02-13-2002 1:29 AM


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Originally posted by KingPenguin:
this is what you atheists and evolutionists could use to prove their is no god. a conscience and a personality is what defines a person and without this ghost in the shell i think that we would be entirely impulse based like animals.

As keenanvin pointed out, any brain damage changes behaviour, ergo behaviour is a physical function of the brain. I know you believe otherwise, but can you show it?
We are impulse based animals, across the globe men & women are shagging like bunnies, christian or not. Our inherited territorialism is translated into terrible wars.
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Originally posted by KingPenguin:

there is nothing gained from love other than maybe satisfaction and a reason to aspire to something, but why waste time like that if you dont need to and if its not helping you survive. why would we develop something that makes us worse and more dependent on others. i dont know any man that doesnt want a girl very badly or that wants to die alone. why would we need to do anything other than work if it didnt help us progress our species, the developement of emotions just doesnt need to be.

Love does help us to survive. It allows mating & other non sexual bonds. It helps cement & reinforce social structure. A tribe is greater than the sum of its parts.
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mark24
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Posts: 3857
From: UK
Joined: 12-01-2001


Message 7 of 15 (4429)
02-13-2002 5:30 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by KingPenguin
02-13-2002 3:34 PM


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Originally posted by KingPenguin:
can you show that it effects there personality? i know that theyre behavior and methods of thinking change but i still think its the same person in there.

Well, if it's the same person in there, why does their behaviour change? Wouldn't the soul override the brain & shine through?
Can I show it affects personality? Yes. People with progressive diseases that affect the brain are excellent case studies. People who are un-artistic become artistic, as the dominant "maths" (for example) part of the brain is destroyed, for example. Agressive people become unaggressive & vice versa, depending on where the damage occurs.
The point is, our behaviour & personality are SOLELY the result of our brains processes. Change the brain, you change the behaviour. Which begs the question, if we DO have a soul, is there any reason to believe it thinks & acts like us anyway?
Mark
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