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kuresu Member (Idle past 2512 days) Posts: 2544 From: boulder, colorado Joined: |
ahh, I see what you mean. sort of like saying, if he did it twice, then surely she did it twice, without evidence to say that she did in fact do it twice.
inductive reasoning, I think it is? and science is what, deductive? hmm. . . what was interesting in the article that jar linked was that it was claiming mircocephaly to be the cuase. Haven't other hobbits been found on the island? If so, wouldn't that tend to favor the new species argument? especially since microcephaly is really, really rare? anyone got some links handy for this? All a man's knowledge comes from his experiences
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1404 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Haven't other hobbits been found on the island? The original report said:
The skull and bones of one adult female, and fragments from up to six other specimens, were found in the Liang Bua limestone caves on Flores Island, which lies at the eastern tip of Java. So you could have a dwarf species with one specimen with micrencephaly and get the same results .... A major problem is that there appears to have been some tampering with the original fossils before any proper casts were made, so the original information may have been lost (the information is upthread). A second problem is that this find has not (yet) been replicated. Personally I doubt the "micrencephaly theory" but I'll wait for more information. Thanks we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmericanOZen[Deist
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1404 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Heh. Because it is well-known that wherever there are elephants, there are always humans, too. And because it is well known that humans are such better swimmers than elephants too, after all they don't need a snorkle ... LOL -- seems like he's using the argument from incredulity here a couple of times eh? we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmericanOZen[Deist
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Barbarian Inactive Member |
I also seem to remember the claim that hobbits lived on Flores for 800k years. Whatever the basis of that claim, Eckhardt must address it. I wonder how he plans to do it; the sneak preview articles so far ignore the issue.
Edited by Barbarian, : English punctuation differs from the Hungarian one ...
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
Or at least not modern Homo sapiens.
A recent study led by the Smithsonian shows that the wrist bones of H. floresiensis are much closer to extant (non-human) apes and early hominids than they are to Homo. In fact, if I'm reading the article correctly, it may be that this species might be removed from the genus Homo. In many respects, the Bible was the world's first Wikipedia article. -- Doug Brown (quoted by Carlin Romano in The Chronicle Review)
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Dr Jack Member Posts: 3514 From: Immigrant in the land of Deutsch Joined: Member Rating: 8.7 |
The wrist structure is shared with Australopithecines, early Homo and other apes, indicating that the seperation of Homo sapiens & Homo floresiensis between .8 & 1.8 Ma ago but there's nothing in the paper to indicate that they should be removed from Homo.
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
The wrist structure is shared with ... early Homo.... Ah. I misread the Science Daily article. Thanks. In many respects, the Bible was the world's first Wikipedia article. -- Doug Brown (quoted by Carlin Romano in The Chronicle Review)
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Jason777 Member (Idle past 4870 days) Posts: 69 Joined: |
I just read the lastest report and they claim it is a monkey.Kind of funny when you think about it because of all the hype it made.Seems like these things are making evolutionist look like cryptozoologist in search of the long lost manape.
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EighteenDelta Inactive Member |
As per usual, no sources sited, just bold assertive lies.
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
I just read the lastest report.... You did not. Are you a troll? Computers have cut-and-paste functions. So does right-wing historical memory. -- Rick Perlstein
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Jason777 Member (Idle past 4870 days) Posts: 69 Joined: |
The article was dated 11/14/07 in one of those scientific news articles.Im not sure but i believe it was discovery news.That makes you like all evolutionist,either a liar or misinformed.
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Jason777 Member (Idle past 4870 days) Posts: 69 Joined: |
You can find it in the evolution section.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17822 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
The evolution section of which site ? How about providing a link ?
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Wounded King Member Posts: 4149 From: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA Joined: |
Well I can't find it anywhere on Discovery if that isn't where you meant maybe you could give some more direction. I think you are going to have to produce a link or be more specific, for a start the Discovery channel news site doesn't even have an evolution section.
The latest 'Flores man' article I could find on Discovery was from April and didn't suggest that they were chimps at all but rather that they were merely diminutive Homo sapiens. So could you please provide a link that works or something to lead us to this article? TTFN, WK
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Jason777 Member (Idle past 4870 days) Posts: 69 Joined: |
I would if i could remember which science news site it was.Theres only thousands of them.Any way if you cant find it im sure it will be out in all of them very soon.I wish i could remember the guys name who closed the investigation that would very helpful.He said the wrist bones are monkey absolutely and that the case was closed.
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