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You think I don't know whats going on?
Yes.
For example, in response to my question, "Why are we talking about 200m?" you reply:
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--I dunno, go read some of percy's posts, he brought it up. Have you been following?
Yet when we look just one post back we find that that you stated:
TC post #56 writes:
Were talking about less than 200m from the ridge.
And you are using this as a defense of your position. So which is it? You don't know why we are talking about 200m from the ridge, in which case your post #56 is mostly crap. Or, you do know and the response you just gave is mostly crap.
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--lol, no. The sediments were talking about are pelagic, not terrigenous.
Interesting. In post #56 you stated:
--The relevant sediments were talking about, yes.
This was in response to my statement, "First, you say that sea-floor sediments are due to runoff from the continents." So here again, something is very very wrong. Which sediments are at issue?
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--I wouldn't think so. But this is what Percy brought up a couple of posts ago and I assumed what he assumed to get that value for a little bit of subsequent analysis.
Oh, so you never 'really' argued for 200m?
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But then in my recent post #74 I explained difficulties with finding such a sedimentary thickness discontinuity.
I've read your post #74. It is silly. It amounts to 'we can't know' which is a cop-out, TC.
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--I claimed this???
Claimed that sedimentation 'is all due to runoff from the continents'? Yes, you did.
TC post #54 writes:
This exponential increase in sedimentary thickness is due to runoff from continents and its erosion.
This is the post where I noticed the contradiction in your explaination. But you clarified it in post #56.
"Haven't you just contradicted yourself? First, you say that sea-floor sediments are due to runoff from the continents."
--The relevant sediments were talking about, yes.
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"That is, sediment travelled appr. a thousand miles in 4000 years. Do you have evidence for this rate?"
--No, I never said that.
Yes, you did, TC. You claim that local pelagic sedimentation is immeasurable, yet sedimentary deposits are found very close to the ridges. This means that these sediments MUST HAVE COME from the continents. Or there is something wrong with your scenario.
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"But wait... the sediments just don't get there, period. And the "local palegic sedimentation" is immeasurable. Yet, there is sediment, so what are you talking about?"
--I don't know, I don't have any of this data until you get 5 km away from the ridge! See post #74 for more.
I don't know? I don't know???? It is your damn argument!!! You don't have any data? Well, here ya go-- sediments on a ridge.
This portion of the Juan de Fuca Ridge is an example of a sedimented ridge-crest system (Figure 12). Such sites are of significant economic interest because sediments are particularly effective at trapping metals dissolved in hydrothermal fluids and are often the sites of large sulfide deposits. At Middle Valley, the sediments host a significant active sulfide accumulation and are underlain by a vigorous hydrothermal system.
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And here...
Sediments cover all but the active portions of the mid-ocean ridges like dust that covers the infrequently-used objects in your home. The sediments fall from above, like old animal skeletons (biogenous sediments). Also, considerable dust from the continents blows over the oceans and is deposited (terrigenous sediments). Finally, hydrogenous sediments are those forming insitu (in place). They crystallize directly from the liquid when concentrations become sufficiently rich.
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Your lack of data is self imposed, TC. And that is your biggest problem. So, wanna try again?
John writes:
What are you talking about? The issue you have to deal with is that there is a pretty steady decrease in sediment depth from the continents to the ridges. You seem to be claiming that this is all due to runoff from the continents. That is, sediment travelled appr. a thousand miles in 4000 years. Do you have evidence for this rate? But wait... the sediments just don't get there, period. And the "local palegic sedimentation" is immeasurable. Yet, there is sediment, so what are you talking about?
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