So What is Blasphemy?

In the thread Message 218 CTD states:

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For example, you've been informed that jar is a 'christian'. EvC has its own definition, and Ringo is also a 'christian' by EvC standards.

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Now read through this thread, and decide for yourself if anyone else would apply the term to them.

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I shan't post highlights. It speaks for itself. Or rather, they speak for themselves.

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I believe that CTD has clearly implied that he is the judge of who should be called Christian and who should not. I disagree as I believe that it is up to the individual to define for themselves what they believe.In post Message 218 CTD states:

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When did I act as judge, jury, and executioner? I merely invited readers to observe that in order to apply the term 'christian' to persons who make posts of this type, one needs a peculiar definition of the term. Most peculiar. Where is the judging, jurying, & executing in that?

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And I care not for any new definitions of 'blasphemy' you may care to offer. I'd have no choice but to conclude you'd use it about as accurately as you use other terms.

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My admittedly limited understanding indicates that the term blasphemy is not so much about saying 'dog gone' as certain overzealous fanatics presuming to speak for God and saying who is saved and who is damned. While this may be a bit of a stretch in this particular case, it does appear that CTD is just short of presuming to speak for God.So is blasphemy about cussing, whatever that may mean, or it it presuming to speak for God?I guess Bible forum.

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Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis BaconThe more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza

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It could include both, depending on the situation.Essentially, blasphemy is to speak impiously about God. So it is not blasphemous to say "f*ck" when you hit your thumb with a hammer.I believe that to say "Jesus f*kin Christ" when you hit your thumb with a hammer is not blasphemous because of the context.To be blasphemous you really have to mean in your heart what it is you say about God.It would also depend on your faith as well. If I said that Jesus was a filthy conman who ripped people off, then in a xian context that would be blasphemous, but it wouldnt be blasphemous in a Jewish or Muslim context as neither of these faiths accept Jesus as divine, although Muslims may be pissed off at one of their prophets being spoken about like that.So, blasphemy is about intentionally saying derogatory things about God.Brian.

Not exactly true.Blasphemy is, precisely: denying what you knew in fact to be true, then saying it is not true.Example: the Pharisees admitted that no person could do the works of Jesus (= miracles) unless God was with Him. THEN, later on, they said He did the works/miracles by the power of Beelzebub (= Satan). In this precise context Jesus called this blasphemy and said that it would not be forgiven. That is blasphemy - there you have it.In 70 AD Titus executed the judgement of God.Ray

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So blasphemy is basically a Republican sin?The dictionary tells us that blasphemy is 1a) the act of insulting or showing contempt for God; 1b) the act of claiming the attributes of deity; 2) irreverence toward something considered sacred or inviolable.Could you tell us the source of your special definition that no one else uses?

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This is really really a great definition!Those who hang onto to antiquated religious notions even though their God given reasoning and observational powers would indicate otherwise are guilty of Blasphemy. Denying the truth is Blasphemy, self-deceit is Blasphemy, promoting lies and falsehoods are heresy.Especially considering that many acquire or hold on to religious ideas for purely self-centric motivations such as; fulfilling a primal desires to extend the ego forever, bolstering a poor sense of self-esteem by providing a framework to condemn or belittle others, or as a means to achieve prestige or political power within a peer group.

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Drum: Three Black Hearts Of Damnation And Impurity

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This would only be blasphemous if it is related to God. The Pharisees did not blaspheme because Jesus wasn’t God, they knew he was a crook, so they did not intentionally insult God. Of course Jesus is the expert in blasphemy. As I said, it depends on which faith you are approaching from. From a Xian viewpoint your example may well be taken as blasphemous, but from a Jewish viewpoint there was no blasphemy in your example. The Pharisees did not insult God, because reading the Bible with even the slightest hint of objectivity demonstrates that Jesus was no God, and certainly no Messiah. You mean that Titus punished the Romans for killing Jesus?

Well, at least some Blasphemy, which I have sampled locally.Besides, you seem to have the Heresy and Insanity covered.

i agree.

Yes, that was the context of my points. There are verses that have them admitting that He could not do the miracles that He did unless God was with Him. THEN there are verses that have them saying He did said miracles by the power of Beelzebub. In this context Jesus called this unforgiveable blasphemy. My point can only be understood by persons who have at least a basic knowledge of ancient history. Titus destroyed Jerusalem, not Rome.Ray

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The post I am responding to is egregiously off topic and a deliberate derail.If I was a Moderator I would suspend you for one day.RayEdited by Cold Foreign Object, : No reason given.