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Author Topic:   Wegener and Evidence for Continental Drift
roxrkool
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Message 59 of 189 (41649)
05-28-2003 7:05 PM
Reply to: Message 58 by TrueCreation
05-28-2003 5:49 PM


quote:
Percy states:
There should be a significant difference in the structure and appearance of sea floor formed at the rate of miles/day as compared to that formed at the rate of a few yards/century. We see no such difference, and this also contradicts CPT.
TC states:
--Please elaborate on this.
Have a look at this image on the NOAA site. (BTW, you can zoom in on that picture.)
Now, of course, since I believe you have a problem with mainstream dating methods, you would have to calibrate the dating scheme used by NOAA to your own timescale. After that, and based on the age-relations observed, you should be able to pick the spot where the continents went from traveling across the ocean from several miles per day to today's rates (and that of the last 5,000 years) of a few cm/mm per year. Seeing as that is a HUGE difference in velocity, you should have no problems doing so.
To advance the theory further, you would also need to present corroborating sediment thickness maps as well as structural and/or topographic data. Furthermore, all this data would need to adequately explain continental tectonics, ore deposits, oil accumulations, among a host of many other things.
But let's start out quick and easy by simply seeing your physical evidence for CPT.
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roxrkool
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Message 65 of 189 (41659)
05-29-2003 12:51 AM


O/T
TC:
I can see you have your hands full here and I'm sorry I've added to your dilemma. I did want to say that although your lack of evidence and... ummm... understanding is rather frustrating to most of us, I respect your tenacity for having stuck around as long as you have. Kudos!

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roxrkool
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Message 110 of 189 (42460)
06-09-2003 5:21 PM


Looking at it from a different perspective, and with the understanding that no one knows for sure, I would expect magnetic reversals to have some kind of effect on life. Not to mention the fact that they were happening every few hundred years (???). Throughout human history, to be exact, according to the Bible.
I cannot fathom the thought that something of that magnitude (and it must be!) has gone completely unmentioned in the Bible or other historical writings.
When would the last reversal have taken place if indeed CPT were true? A hundred years ago? Anyone know?
And nary a mention of it anywhere? I just find that extremely hard to believe. Call me a silly skeptic, if you will.

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roxrkool
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Message 118 of 189 (42596)
06-11-2003 3:34 PM
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06-11-2003 10:10 AM


Wow, I'm impressed you had the energy to make that post. I can't seem to make heads or tails of what TC is trying to say most times. I figured I haven't been following long enough... but maybe not...

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roxrkool
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Message 119 of 189 (42599)
06-11-2003 3:44 PM
Reply to: Message 116 by IrishRockhound
06-11-2003 7:21 AM


Re: magnetic life
I tried searching through GeoRef for some literature on magnetic reversal effects on life, but wasn't able to find any. I may need to get creative with my search terms.
Perhaps IRH is correct. Maybe the effects are relatively mild and something along the lines of beached whales/dolphins and birds flying the wrong directions (ending up on strange continents and islands), etc. ???

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roxrkool
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Message 122 of 189 (42620)
06-11-2003 7:56 PM
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06-11-2003 5:15 PM


Re: magnetic life
It appears we should be expecting one anytime. That would be interesting!

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roxrkool
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Message 127 of 189 (42739)
06-12-2003 4:34 PM
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06-12-2003 3:55 PM


Re: Plate tectonics
quote:
I wonder if Dr. Baumgardner thought about this - ah, but he doesn't have a geology degree, and might never have even heard of magnetic reversals. What a shame.
Aw, details, shmetails...

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roxrkool
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Message 155 of 189 (44152)
06-25-2003 12:07 PM


After reading this and many other threads, it seems painfully obvious that YECs KNOW they can never prove a young Earth. Why? Because, as Percy pointed out in his post above, there are no mammals in the Cambrian. If Creationists really did believe they could prove a young Earth and disprove evolution, they would all be out in the field digging through every Cambrian/Precambrian outcrop looking for those pesky mammals, or the Jurassic looking for humans. Instead, they waste their time trying to prove CPT when much easier ways exist to prove their theory.
At this point, there is absolutely no reason at all to support CPT. As Rockhound stated, Dr. Baumgardner did not develop CPT as an alternative to PT. There was no need since PT explains the available physical evidence extrememly well. Baumgardner's entire motivation for developing CPT was to support the Bible ONLY. He has absolutely no supporting evidence whatsoever!! Nor is he, or anyone, ever likely to find any.
TC, if you really want to prove YEC, go out to the field and find a human (or a fish or dinosaur or mammal or flower etc. etc. etc.) in the Cambrian. That's all! It's very simple.
And if Creationist organizations were serious about proving once and for all that Creation is true, they would ALL be out there conducting those types of studies or paying others to do it. As complex as the geologic record and evolutionary theory are, they would come tumbling down quickly and easily with just a few anomalous fossil finds.

  
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