Where Was W Waldo?

Tal writes:

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Inactive Reserve time counts. For instance: When I first joined the Army in 96 I signed a 3 year contract to serve in the Infantry. In the Army, you sign on to serve 8 years, nomatter what your active duty contract says. When you finish your active duty obligation you are discharged and placed into the Inactive Reserve component. In my case, I could be called back to Active Duty at anytime in the next 5 years. I went back to Active Duty 3 years later. My time in service was then 6 years, even though 3 had been spent off active duty. So for pay purposes I was paid for having 6 years time in service instead of 3. The down side to that is I have to serve 23 years to retire, or 20 years Active Federal Service.

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Hmmmmm, much of this doesn't sound right to me. I was in the IRR but only a few months ago. When you sign up for four years, you are actually obligated, by contractual agreement, to serve eight. However, after your initial four years as an active duty member or as a reservist, you can get out.In the IRR you live life like a civilian in every way. However, until your contract ends, they can activate you dependent upon the need. In fact, I was activated by the Navy, however, unbeknownst to my command, they had signed a conditional release to allow me to join active duty USCG and, therefore, didn't belong to the USN any longer.But you get no money or no benefits while in the IRR, nor does that remaining four year time accrue towards retirement should you decide to come back. I know because I was out of the military for three years and decided to come back.I lost two ranks and none of that time in the IRR applies on my DD-214. (Mind you, I'm 30 now and retirement is 15 years away. Doh!) As stated above, IRR time does not count as military time. Its only there as a contractual agreement, in the event, type deal... I really haven't been following the argument, so I can't really speak on the matter too much. But I know this. Just being alive and in the IRR ensures that you meet the required time. If you joined February 28, 2000-- you have to serve as a regular reservist or active duty member until February 28, 2004. However, you are still under contractual agreement until February 28, 2008. The thing is, you don't have to do anything except respond to an email so they have your contact info updated. I don't see how Bush could not have met his contractual agreement simply because he was alive.Edited by nemesis_juggernaut, : edit to add for further clarification

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"It is better to shun the bait, than struggle in the snare." -Ravi Zacharias

What I find strange is that, should the allegations be true, how he could not show up to his remaining 5 drills and flown under the Air Force's radar (yes, pun intended).

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"It is better to shun the bait, than struggle in the snare." -Ravi Zacharias

Yeah, sure, maybe... Guess we'll never know.

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"It is better to shun the bait, than struggle in the snare." -Ravi Zacharias

I can't find any documentation on when the military began drug testing, but 1972 sounds way too early to me. I want to say it was around the mid-80's, but I could be mistaken.Perhaps you can find that info, not that it would indict Bush though, as its purely speculative.

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"It is better to shun the bait, than struggle in the snare." -Ravi Zacharias

What?!?! As in, DFAS back pays you for the years prior to re-activation? If this is what you're saying, maybe it would have been better to have stayed in the Navy. 1. I would have retained my rank, and 2. I'd be back payed for almost 3 and half years.Or are you saying that your "time in service" will reflect the years you were on IRR status? As in, you are an E-5 with four years, you got out and was in the IRR for three years. When they call you back, you will be an E-5 with 7 year pay, as opposed to an E-5 with four years pay? Is this what you mean? If so, I guess that's not such a bad deal. The first one is better though. How can you not drill, and essentially do nothing for Uncle Sam any longer, and retire with benefits? I'm not understanding that portion. Besides, all that really seems to matter is what is listed on your DD-214 anyhow. Everything else is hearsay as far as the military is concerned... which is why we should annotate everything and make a bazillion copies. Can't rely on those admin folk to do it. Edited by nemesis_juggernaut, : edit to add

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"It is better to shun the bait, than struggle in the snare." -Ravi Zacharias

Where are the records you speak of now, so I can see what everyone else seems privy to?

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"It is better to shun the bait, than struggle in the snare." -Ravi Zacharias