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Author Topic:   God caused or uncaused?
Rob 
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Message 1 of 2 (415757)
08-11-2007 11:03 PM


In a previous thread, Behe Bit It (Michael Behe on "The Colbert Report") we did drift off into a relevant issue; that of the uncaused nature of God as many, such as myself, maintain. I think the questions surrounding the issue are worthy of discussion. Mark24 as well as PaulK had some questions and assertions: Particularly whether there can be an infinite regress of causes.
Mark24 writes: http://EvC Forum: Behe Bit It (Michael Behe on "The Colbert Report") -->EvC Forum: Behe Bit It (Michael Behe on "The Colbert Report")
God can't be the ultimate reality, he must've been designed. And so begins the infinate regression.
This is your problem, you can't be consistent about your own design inference, it must therefore be rejected.
Mark, the folowing is from Merriam-Websters: God Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster
Main Entry: 1god
Pronunciation: 'gd also 'god
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English; akin to Old High German got god
1 capitalized : the supreme or ultimate reality: as a : the Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is worshipped as creator and ruler of the universe b Christian Science : the incorporeal divine Principle ruling over all as eternal Spirit : infinite Mind
Reality in total is all that can be. Even if it is infinite and eternal, there is still nothing larger than everything (I do not mean everything in the pantheist sense. And that's really another topic if there is such a thing).
Everything which has a beginning has a cause. God did not have a beginning, therefore He does not need a cause.
Everything designed has a designer. God was not designed, therfore He does not need a designer.
He is the Alpha and the Omega; both beginning and end.
Unless I am mistaken, if there is one distinction between the pantheist view and the Christian, it is that reality is living and conscious (ie. God); a sentient and sovereign being as opposed to a simply material or natural existence that is void of any feeling or conscious thinking capacity.
I don't know if this is the proper forum for this discussion...

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08-12-2007 12:25 AM


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