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Author Topic:   OK! You're president. Now what?
Buzsaw
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Message 9 of 43 (412523)
07-25-2007 8:36 AM


1. I would put it straight to the people that there is a ww conspiracy in place which threatenes the planet, similar to the ambitions of Hitler in that the theocratic Islamic heads of state plan to rule the world as per the Koran, the Hadith and the Sunnahs. I would document and widely publish this information.
2. I would then impress upon the people the importance of protecting the nation of Israel which is the one and only nation in the region which is protecting the planet from complete domination of the oil rich region of the Middle East.
3. I would therefore insure that the US & western NATO democracies maintain some base of operation for air power so as to insure balance and a measure of stability in the all crucial Middle East and Europe.
4. I would STOP building up another violent Islamic regime in Iraq as we are doing. This is real stupid, i.e. establishing another Hezbolic Sheitist violent Islamic power allied to the Sheitist Iranian totalitarian dictatorship so as for to empower the violent Sheitist sector of Islam which intends to conquer the world for Islam and their god, Allah.
5. I would then model Israel's SUCESSFUL strategy of maintaining stability by making it crystal clear that whenever aggressive acts are perpetrated by any violent groups, the bombs will fly on the interests of those organizations which advocate such violence. It would be strike, destroy and withdraw just as Israel does so effectively.
6. We would then have no part in building up the very religious theocracy that advocates takeover of the planet and would hold at bay the violence just as Israel does so effectively to protect their tiny little nation which lies smack dad in the midst of violent neighbors.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past.

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Buzsaw
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Message 13 of 43 (413007)
07-27-2007 9:02 AM
Reply to: Message 11 by RAZD
07-25-2007 9:39 AM


Endless Dilema
But Razd, when you are surrounded by neighbors indoctrinated by a religious conspiracy to dominate not only the Mideast, but the entire planet, there is no terminal solution so long as the conspiracy remains a threat and so long as the conspirators continue to flourish. The only option is to either hold the enemy at bay as Israel does or go better yet on the offensive against the conspiracy.
The problem with the non-Muslim world is the lie that Islam is a peaceful religion is widely believed in spite of the evidence. The life and teaching of Mohammed and his desciples imperically proves otherwise.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past.

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Buzsaw
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Message 14 of 43 (413008)
07-27-2007 9:06 AM
Reply to: Message 12 by RAZD
07-25-2007 9:44 AM


Biased UN
The problem with your thinking is that you evidently are unaware that the UN is obviously pro Islam and anti US/Israel in this conflict. The UN has traditionally been anti-West, highly influenced by both Communism and now Islam.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past.

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Buzsaw
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Message 21 of 43 (413146)
07-27-2007 9:45 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by RAZD
07-27-2007 7:14 PM


Re: the problem
RAZD writes:
When you define the other side as an implacable enemy, the only course of action you leave yourself is an endless war. This is self-evident in Israel.
If I understand you correctly you're implicating Israel as the cause of this being an endless war. If you were president what would you do about Israel? Would you withdraw our support and let the oil rich Middle East be totally dominated by Islamic totalitarian regimes who's leaders agree with the prophet Mohammed and his book that Islam should emerge triumphant over all the kingdoms of the earth?
Israel is the one stumbling stone which their Islamic neighbors want removed. Until this happens, their ambition of ruling the planet can't move on nearly as fast as if they dominated the total Mideast. They are already making significant progress in Europe and the US with Saudi Arabia's big oil money significantly funding the thousands of new mosques going up all over the planet.
Would your policy be to empower Islamic dictators to be in the position to blackmail the rest of the world dependent on oil even more than they already are with their increased dominance of violence and intolerance in the Middle East?

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past.

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Buzsaw
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Message 22 of 43 (413148)
07-27-2007 10:00 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by Taz
07-27-2007 12:43 PM


Re: The President's Policy
Taz writes:
Just so you know, Christianity doesn't exactly have that much of a better track record.
This topic is about the here and now as the president must deal with the issues. For over a century now Christianity has been the solution, not the problem with the historically Christian US being the land of the free and supplier of the needs of oppressed and starving cultures of the world.
As president, would you focus on Christianity, regarding the half dozen or so fundamentalist Christians who've killed and terrorized in the last century the threat or would your policy be to regard the Islamic terrorists of the world as the greater threat?

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past.

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Buzsaw
Inactive Member


Message 24 of 43 (413151)
07-27-2007 10:20 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by macaroniandcheese
07-27-2007 10:21 AM


Re: Biased UN
Brena writes:
yeah! which is totally why they failed to convict those bastard serbs that murdered and defiled so many muslims and destroyed so much muslim culture in bosnia.*
Hi Brena. Don't feel bad for the Muslims in the region relative to what has happened there. Our policy of destruction of the infrastructure and devastating the region and government was much harsher than what we're doing in Afganistan and Iraq. We left the Serbs with no help after wiping out the dictatorial non Muslim regime so as for Islam to advance in the region. In Iraq we pour hundreds of billions into building up a Shea Hesbolah sympathetic segment of Islam as is Iran, again, advancing the ambition of Islam's global takeover with American $$$.

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Buzsaw
Inactive Member


Message 25 of 43 (413152)
07-27-2007 10:28 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by jar
07-27-2007 10:17 PM


Re: The President's Policy
Jar with your Christophobic and Bibliofobic mindset, if you ran for President Ralph Nader's mother would likely garner more votes than you could expect to tally.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past.

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Buzsaw
Inactive Member


Message 30 of 43 (413702)
08-01-2007 12:07 AM
Reply to: Message 29 by RAZD
07-31-2007 10:09 AM


Re: the problem
RAZD writes:
Look at Ireland and the history of terrorism there -- briefer and SOLVED in less time than the "endless war" in the middle east. WHY?
Because people were willing to look beyond defining the problem in terms of endless wars and implacable enemies and find real solutions.
But as president one would not face the dilema in Ireland that would be encountered in the Middle East. The dilema is far more complicated and complex.
1. Islam fundamentalists of Islam, unlike the IRA do not fight. They walk or drive themselves as lethal bombs into innocent crowds, buildings, factories, government buildings, busses et al so as to kill and destroy maximum number of people and as much property as they can. As president how would you deal with this dilema?
2. Islams holy book advocates world domination whereas the IRA did not. As president what would you do to prevent Islam's ambition of world conquest? The thrust is first to secure the Mideast by wiping out Israel and dealing with the US barrier to world conquest. If they can accomplish these two objectives they're well on their way to an Islamic world. As president would you let Israel fall?

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past.

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Buzsaw
Inactive Member


Message 33 of 43 (415567)
08-10-2007 9:11 PM


Bump For Response.
I don't know how active RAZD is wanting to be these days, but sometime if inclined to do so I would like a response to my questions in message 30. For that matter It would be interesting for others to address these questions pertaining to the Mideast specific problems I cited if they were president now.
Edited by Buzsaw, : Change message #.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past.

  
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