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Author Topic:   The "Digital Code" of DNA
ringo
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Message 100 of 143 (410025)
07-12-2007 8:11 PM
Reply to: Message 98 by Fosdick
07-12-2007 7:59 PM


Hoot Mon writes:
You can order genes through the Internet....
And what can those genes do? Can they produce proteins?
'A Ford is nothing more than summation of its parts. There is no Fordness that goes beyond the physical automobile itself.'
Show me the Fordness.

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Message 103 of 143 (410065)
07-13-2007 3:30 AM
Reply to: Message 101 by Rob
07-13-2007 2:18 AM


Re: Dean Kenyon
Rob writes:
You have made it to look as though I was addressing the wrong topic. But you have never actually made any comment whatsoever about what I presented to Hoot Mon.
Nothing you have said addresses the simple fact: The only "code" involved is a shorthand invented by scientists to describe complex molecules.

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Message 109 of 143 (410137)
07-13-2007 11:21 AM
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07-13-2007 10:45 AM


Re: Digital polio
Scientists in the US have, for the first time, fabricated a working copy of a dangerous disease virus from scratch in the lab, using chemicals obtained by mail order and the publicly available knowledge of the virus's code.
So, using chemicals and publically available knowledge of those chemicals, scientists have been able to alter those chemicals. Once again, how is the "code" anything other than the structure of the molecule?
How about a Ford owner's manual? There's digital Fordness in there.
Now you're confusing advertising with code.

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Message 112 of 143 (410144)
07-13-2007 12:16 PM
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07-13-2007 11:58 AM


Re: Digital polio
Hoot Mon writes:
The structure of a DNA molecule is not the primary concern here, because the arrangement of nucleotides into coded information goes a huge step beyond mere structure.
You seem to think the "structure" of the DNA molecule is just the framework. The arrangement of nucleotides is the fine structure. Every DNA molecule has the same framework, but it's the fine structure that holds the information.
You seem to be saying that "a building is a building" and there's some magic code that distinguishes one building from another. In reality, it's the arrangement of the rooms - the fine structure - that distinguishes one building from another.
Yes, the molecular arrangement, the fine-structure arrangement of the nucleotides is only structure.

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