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derwood Member (Idle past 1907 days) Posts: 1457 Joined: |
I provided a short description of this 'hypothesis' of Davison's and he said that it was basically correct. It goes something like this:
An error occurs during Meiosis that results in a parthenogenic ovum.[how this would actually occur, salty does not say]. This parthenogenic ovum then if develops into a new species. That is, it is born (hatched, whatever), and it is totally different from its parent. It then reproduces asexually until a large enough popu- , er, um, pardon me - until there a whole bunchy ot htme, then, as if by magic, they start reproducing sexually, and this prevents them from changing any more. For this, the evidence provided in this forum by its primary proponant: Broom, Berg, etc. would havre agreed with him.... Evidence provided Davison's relevant papers: Sometimes turkeys can asexually reproduce... but the offspring are just turkeys... but a 'hopeful monster' could be in there somewhere! Broom, Berg, etc. would agree with him. "Darwinism" is dead. Did I miss anything?
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derwood Member (Idle past 1907 days) Posts: 1457 Joined: |
quote: Indeed - there was a thread at Terry The Worm's place in which salty chimed in about Mary giving birth asexually... As far as bumping into salty, I doubt that will happen. I resigned form the Worm's in disgust at the idiocy and sycophantism displayed there, and that is the only place I have ever seen salty (besides here).
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derwood Member (Idle past 1907 days) Posts: 1457 Joined: |
quote: A population of one....
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derwood Member (Idle past 1907 days) Posts: 1457 Joined: |
JA "If I ignore them, they don't exist" Davison up to his old antics at the Worm's den of idiots.
Incredible....
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derwood Member (Idle past 1907 days) Posts: 1457 Joined: |
Hello?
This thing on?
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derwood Member (Idle past 1907 days) Posts: 1457 Joined: |
Always been one of my favorite words.
Sort of like calling someone 'gay.' It may offend some homosexuals to see the word used in a derogatory sense, but it really offends the homophobe/latent homosexual being called it...
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derwood Member (Idle past 1907 days) Posts: 1457 Joined: |
"Look at them meanie old guys over there. Over here , we is all nice to each other. Unless, of course, you are not a YEC cultist... Then we warn you and goad you.
Or unless you are Ilion - you know, the guy that trolls and gets his ass whupped' - or gets ignored - every time he tries to really discuss something at ARN? Yeah, then you can do what you want. Never mind that I am too much of an intellectual coward to actually try to discuss anything at a board where i do not have "moderation" power - I mean, them meanie guys might point out how ignorant I am or sumpthin'..." As for our "supposed" victories - I guess Terry Trainor really is just plain stupid, for if he actually thinks that salty held his own here at all, well, that says it all....
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derwood Member (Idle past 1907 days) Posts: 1457 Joined: |
Terry Trainor writes, in response to the latest whinign by senile Out-of-date Davison
quote: I am reminded of a simple reality.You should not try to talk science on a creationist-run discussion board. 1. It is like talking ot a brick wall.2. The brick wall will simply delete your posts, threaten to ban you, spread idiotic lies about you, and when backed into a corner that their little pea brains cannot find an AiG link to save themselves with, will tell you that you are going to Hell for not being a simple-minded nitwit like them. Isn't that clever, Worm? [This message has been edited by SLPx, 05-13-2003]
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derwood Member (Idle past 1907 days) Posts: 1457 Joined: |
Davison's whining is most comical.
In fact, some fairly crazy people did get on the ballot. Take "Mom" for instance. I forget her name off the top of my head, but she has been on the ballot several times, the Free Press has published her platform, and I have had the smug pleasure of seeing her utterly humiliated on a TV debate. She calls herself "Mom," you see. Her platform is, among other things, that a combination of prayer and Native american healing arts will rid the state of homosexuals, abortion, drug use,and a list of things that, doubtless, Davison is against also (he recently made some implicit homophobic comments at the Wrom's - I am so shocked!). If I remember correctly, 2 years ago when she ran she also wanted to exeute people for all sorts of things. Really bizarre. That SHE was on the ballot really says something about salty... And a suppression campaign by the Free Press or the Tims Argus ain't it. They both listed "Mom's" blather...
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derwood Member (Idle past 1907 days) Posts: 1457 Joined: |
quote:Much easier to communicate with religious fanatics that worship the great god Intelligent Design. They never ask questions and only nod in polite (and demented) agreement. quote: It has always been that way. That is why Terry the simpleton 'warned' me after only my second post at the Worm's den - for defending legitimate scientists against the insulting gibberish spewed by OutofDate.quote:And yet another unsupported assertion. Who would have thought? quote: PREDICTION:A response - if any - will consist of: assertions, deference to dead paleontologists, insults. quote: The one that you were banned once? The one where you repeatedly ask to be banned after getting warnings? The one where you are given free reign to insult and goad anyone not taken in by your gibberish? Yes, most civil.As you return "in triumph", maybe your little den of simpletons might wonder why you were entirely unable to address ANY criticisms of your ..."work"? Nah - they don't care. You are one of them. quote: I notice OutofDate is STILL choosing to ignore uttelry the Rice and Chippiondale paper cited to him on at least 3 occasions demonstrating the benefits of sexual reproduction. No wonder his crap would never make it in a real journal...
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derwood Member (Idle past 1907 days) Posts: 1457 Joined: |
In the wacky world of right-wing Davison, all he has to do is assert something and it must be true.
Odd then that people actually in the know would find his assertions infantile in their content. I believe I may forward a collection of Davison's more absurd assertions to individuals that are actually known in the respective fields and see what their thoughts on this charlatan's gibberish is. The real pity is that there are gullible, and frankly, stupid enough people out there (like Bertha Jane vandeGrift at ARN) that actually think this clown is onto something...
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derwood Member (Idle past 1907 days) Posts: 1457 Joined: |
quote: You do not understand at all. I know you are largely incompetent, and this asinine mantra about population genetics is just one of many examples. I need not solicit opinions, for I know you are wrong. No, I just mentioned that I might forward along some of your more laughable claims to ilicit responses that you might actually pay attention to. On further reflection, however, that would be a waste of everyone's time, as you have no intention of listening to, much less aceepting, reasoned discourse.quote:Bertha is a simple-minded stooge. She continues to insist that "directed mutations" occur, despite having dozens of papers cited and having it explined to her dozens of times that they do not. Every week or so, she just reposts the same assertions. just like you. And this is nothing new - I first encountered her probably 6 years ago on the old Internet Infidels board. She made the same refuted arguments then that she does now. She claims to just be 'skeptical' that "RM&NS" can account for extant diversity. yet she is not skeptical at all of any fly-by-night nonsense that roplls along saying otherwise. In fact, she was the one that first linked to your site a few years ago. Peas in a pod, so to speak. Oh, and as far as 'generating interest' goes, I did a search for "semi-meiosis" and found only these two threads. It is funny - the only folks that seem to think you are onto something are three people thast have admitted they know nothing of science - mturner, Bertvan, and jazzraptor - and a handful of simpletons who jump on any bandwagon they can. And there, like here, many of the flaws in your 'thinking' are pointed out. An interesting quote from an evolutionary biologist/entomologist: quote: if that is what you mean by "generating interest", well, so be it.
quote: If you say so. quote:not to mention Bateson, Goldschmidt, Broom, and Grasse. Throw in some arrogance and call it a winner. quote: That appears to be a lie. You have done no experimentation whatsover for more than 10 years, certainly notihng to test your hypotheses. Asserting something does not make it true.As for Mayr and Gould, here is a little anecdote that I presented once before when a similar subject came up (Borger whining about not getting replies from real scientists). My graduate advisor is considered one of the world's leading experts on the molecular evolutoin in Primates. When I was a graduate student, I would sometimes pick up his mail from the department office and deliver it to him. One day, he received a post-card form one Kelly segraves - who, if I recall correctly, is or was a well-known creationist activist. The post card had some nonsensical ramblings about dinosaurs and such, and asked some questions of my advisor. He chuckled to himself, showed it to me, then threw it in the garbage.One can only guess that Segraves, after not hearing from my advisor for several weeks, 'concluded' that my advisor simply could not handle the questions and that he, segraves, was right. [This message has been edited by SLPx, 05-15-2003]
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derwood Member (Idle past 1907 days) Posts: 1457 Joined: |
Check out the last two posts. Even the anti-Darwinist mturner agrees that some of it is nonsense...
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derwood Member (Idle past 1907 days) Posts: 1457 Joined: |
quote: I see you did not read my anecdote. How surprising.
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derwood Member (Idle past 1907 days) Posts: 1457 Joined: |
By the way - did you realize that you had incorrectly described meiosis in your manifesto?
This was pointed out on ARN. I'm sure you will find a nice home there....
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