For Salty

However, without a citation from the peer-reviewed literature in support of this claim, I have no reason to take your "rumor" as anything but an unsupported assertion. Perhaps Mammuthus can dig one up...Hmmm that is a tough one...however I will give it a shot...here is a reference on rumors:Zanette DH. Related Articles, Links
Dynamics of rumor propagation on small-world networks.
Phys Rev E Stat Nonlin Soft Matter Phys. 2002 Apr;65(4 Pt 1):041908.and here is one on cats:Higashi T, McIntosh JM, Shirahata M.
Characterization of nicotinic acetylcholine receptors in cultured arterial chemoreceptor cells of the cat.
Brain Res. 2003 Jun 6;974(1-2):167-175.and one on people:Fader M, Clarke-O'Neill S, Cook D, Dean G, Brooks R, Cottenden A, Malone-Lee J.
Management of night-time urinary incontinence in residential settings for older people: an investigation into the effects of different pad changing regimes on skin health.
J Clin Nurs. 2003 May;12(3):374-86.Do I win?

As for debate, debate has no place in scienceM: Hmm where did you ever learn that? Debate and criticism are integral parts of science.S: All that matters is the truth, and that has only to be discovered.M: What does this sentence have to do with the relevance of debate to science?...I could replace truth with "whereabouts of Elvis" and it would retain the same degree of significance.S: Go insult each other.M: But you are so much more cuddly and responsive You also seem to be fed up with evading questions and with your own inability to defend or support your hypothesis I take it?I guess conceding defeat is your only recourse...

This is part of the opening of Salty's paper on Evolution as a Self-Limiting Process.Even if we assume he is right that Darwin's theories are incorrect, this a logical fallacy. Denying the antecedent. "If Darwin is right, sexual reproduction will be able to produce new kinds of living things. Darwin is not right, therefore sexual reproduction cannot produce new kinds of living things."It's akin to saying, "When the weather is rainy, it's cold out. But it's not rainy today, therefore the weather will be warm." The weather could still be cold, but not rainy.This fallacy seems to be the only explanation in the paper for sexual reproduction not being involved in evolution.(Salty, if I'm misinterpreting what you said here, please let me know. Additionally, I haven't had time to read your other papers yet. You might explain it there.)------------------
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Dan Carroll

I think the challenge was for you to prove your amazing talent was replicable under controlled conditions. I.e., by providing relevant citations...

How could management of night-time urinary incontinence not be considered relevant?...Grasse would agree with me and so would some other dead people. and I feel no need to defend myself from such (DOGTHINK). Debate is not a part of incontinence, the truth is incontinence...but if you need a reference read the manifesto..any manifesto..page 6576..whoa..back out of salty mode

I meant exactly what I said. Thank you very much. I am now abadoning this den of hate and going over to http://www.arn.org where they would never tolerate any of the kind of anal nonsense that characterizes EvC. salty

Yikes. You complained that no one was reading your papers. I read it, pointed out a rather important logical fallacy, and respectfully asked you to clear it up if I was misinterpreting it.You wanna call that "a den of hate" or "anal nonsense", that's your business...------------------
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Dan Carroll

Our local bookmaker is giving 4/11 that Salty posts a reply before Saturday, anyone want me to put a bet on for them?

Hmmm your local bookmaker looks remarkably similar to salty himself!
He will probably post before Friday!
Even Elvis has not exited the building as many times as salty

Dan Dan Dan...don't you realize even questioning salty's assertions are an insult to salty, Grasse, Elvis, and any dead former member of Menudo? Tsk tsk..how dare you question an unsupported assertion or point out a logical fallacy ....that could lead to questions..and what then??? Chaos..anarchy...the making of Grease into a trilogy..oh the agony

Dan posts this: (Salty, if I'm misinterpreting what you said here, please let me know. Additionally, I haven't had time to read your other papers yet. You might explain it there.)Salty says in response to Dan: I meant exactly what I said. Thank you very much.M: And salty wonders why more people don't support his hypothesis?hey salty...could you please define the following (this is certainly not in your papers)What is a hypothesis?
Evidence?
A Dawinian/Darwinist?
The difference between evidence and assertion?
Summarize how meiosis actually occurs? (you may feel free to cheat by going to the link I posted earlier today...it is even animated)Thanks in advance

I wonder if anyone in Menudo is dead... that's the kind of thing you don't hear about until well after you'd care, and then think it's an urban legend.------------------
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Dan Carroll

It seems that Ricky Martin's career died..so that is pretty close...kind of like salty's academic career...or his run for governor of Vermont...actually, other than Martin can anyone name another member of Menudo?...it may be way off topic...but hey what's the Free for All for otherwise ?

I'd take 4/11 that one day salty is spied in the Aragon in Byres Road, muttering into his beer with that bar's unique population of failed academics.

Salty, I guess your message #59 was intended as some sort of response to my message #57 which asked

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at what point do you speculate that the whale or its ancestor changed from asexual reproduction to sexual reproduction?

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How do you determine whether any of the species in the Sinonyx - modern whale sequence reproduced semi-meiotically?