Evolution or Creation

OK so what do I lose by believing in God?
If I die and that is it what have I lost. I have been happy and fulfilled.If I am right and there is a God and a Heaven I will spend eternity with Him.If you are right and you have been happy and fulfilled you have not lost anything.But if you are wrong and there is a God and a place prepared for all those who do not trust in Him. You Lose big time.This is the reason I ask, what is the benefit for me or anyone to be an atheist?

Two problems here. First off, if you were an atheist, there would be no "lake of fire". Second off, why would you be cast into the "lake of fire" for being knowledgable?The other problem with your post is your setting it up as an either/or, when the real situation is not either/or.

Yeah, but you're not right. That's the problem. You've wasted a lot of precious, finite time, for sure. If this time is all we have, isn't it all the more crucial that we be doing something worthwhile with it? You don't lose anything and you gain the truth. If you're motivated by truth, that's a big benefit. If you're motivated by cowardice, as you seem to be, then I guess that's no benefit at all.

More likely, He'll punish you for not seeing what's right in front of your face - evolution.

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i suppose you exist after temporal life stops yes i suppose thats true pretty much what place? hell? hell is a non-biblical myth, go read the text it says we will burn up at the end, ie: no longer exist why must there be? its a neutral view of spirituality

So ignorance is bliss. Thank you for sharing that information. It saves us running such a risky experiment with our own lives.But do you really mean it?Looks to me like you're not satisfied with your life at all. Looks to me like this ringing tribute to the virtues of ignorance is just one of those party manifestos you've 'chosen' like you select a pair of socks.Why would a person who feels so empowered choose a handle like I Can't? Why does a person who feels so content with his ignorance voluntarily seek out a message board at age 67 that exposes him to new ideas?If you 'choose' to believe in God, you don't really believe in God.If you 'choose' to believe ignorance is a good thing, you don't really believe ignorance is a good thing._Edited by Archer Opterix, : tinkering.

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ArcherAll species are transitional.

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I would rather have these things and be ignorant and unlearned and go into Heaven and spend eternity there.

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Than: To be the most knowledgeable person cast into the lake of fire to suffer forever.

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So, you seem to be saying that your God punishes people who are curious and knowledgeable about nature and rewards people who are willfully ignorant about nature.Nice.

Archer you know nothing about me.Just to give you some idea of some things that go through my head.I believe God spoke the universe into being in the far distant past a lot further than 14 billion years ago, maybe even trillions of years ago, or longer.When science catches up and gets some better ways of dating things you may find out that I am right.So you eat, drink and be merry for one day you will die, then what?The judgment.

One advantage to being an agnostic, at least: you would no longer have to talk yourself into believing things you obviously doubt. You could say what you really think and leave unanswered questions open and end this game of 'choosing' beliefs that would be acceptable to your granny.BTW, have you run that experiment yet? Where you put your hand into steaming hot water and try choosing to believe that it is cold?If so, what do you now believe?_

No nator you said that.I said God will cast everyone who does not trust in Him into the lake of fire where they will suffer forever.I have nothing against education I did go to college.
And I have stated that I am here still trying to learn.

Thanks! It is something a friend sent me a while ago, and I don't know who won.From the looks of it, the kitty did.

I may be ignorant but I am not stupid.

My congratulations, sir.It sounds like you really believe this about the age of the universe. Not like you 'believe' it, the way you make yourself 'believe' so many other things.Good for you._

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ArcherAll species are transitional.

We're getting into the philosophy of Pascal's Wager here, but I suppose that's ok given the forum section and the topic.If there is a God, you must also have spent your life worshipping that God, and not some other one, right? So really, the benefits of being theistic hinge upon what branch of theism you choose, because if theism is true, that doesn't necessarily mean that all theists are rewarded.And, because the number of branches of theism can number in the millions, or even be theoretically infinite, there is a very slight, or zero, chance of picking the right one just on faith. So, if you look at it like that, an atheist isn't really that much worse off, if at all, when it comes to chances at eternal life. Edited by Doddy, : spelling

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what avatar are you and larni talking about? I only see the one of the person and the horse for you, schraf.show me in chat the next time we're both in there. if you don't mind.