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anastasia
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Message 56 of 64 (389013)
03-10-2007 2:07 AM
Reply to: Message 55 by Equinox
03-09-2007 2:42 PM


Re: Finding Coherency in the the Bible
Equinox writes:
Ah - there’s that word: “Can’t”. Can’t due to what the doctrine/priest/preacher says? “Can’t” because it’s required to think as your are told - such as that the Bible is inerrant? Some similar “Can’t” reason? Christians could indeed decided that Mark’s gospel is right, and ignore John’s or vice versa. That’s how things were at the start of Christianity, and the PO picked which gospels to allow and which to toss - see my Peter example below.
No, not can't, as in, not allowed. But 'can't' as in 'what sense would it make'? Given the gospels we have as canon, we can't flip-flop our over-all idea of Jesus to match, Sure, we can throw away a part of canon. But I am talking WITH this canon. We must find a reason to cohere them, or else toss one. And if we toss one, it can't be on the grounds of 'I dont like it'. This late in the game such a thing is very suspicious.
Why? Both “Biblical” and “orthodox” are human constructions from hundreds of years after Jesus, where Christians were on all sides of the debates.
I understand. But saying someone is 'more christian' is a recent term. It stems from centuries of 'knowing' what a christian is supposed to be. I am not saying that it is right, but it is a line drawing in some areas.
Why require the “as god” part? The Gnostics (who aren't considered Christian by some Christians) certainly did see Jesus as God - depending on the type of Gnostic.
There are other requirements, but sure they are not requirements for real. It is just a thing which has become common that people assosciate when they hear the word. Christians in general believe in a Trinity.
So the unspoken assumption is that the Bible is inerrant. Otherwise, you could decide that Luke wasn’t any more justified than Luther, and then the time gap doesn’t matter.
It has nothing to do with inerrancy. Put Luther in the Bible and people will study him, period, whether they believe in inerrancy or not.
Plus, and more importantly, the “as God” part isn’t needed. For instance, Buddhists don’t see Buddha as God or even as a god. Marxists don’t see Karl as God or a god. Confucists don't see Confucius as God. Isn’t a Christian simply a person who follows Christ, just as a Buddhist follows Buddha, etc?
No...all Buddhists see Buddha as a person and teacher. Same with Marx. If someone starts calling them God, they might be called something else. There has to be human words to define different people. If there are different types of Buddhists, there will be different words, That is why JW's are JW's, and Catholics are Catholics. It is also not realistic to say that JW's follow the same Jesus or follow HIm the same way.
So then is the definition of “what a Christian is” determined by popularity? As we noted, with the rapid growth of the non-trinitarian Christianities, it seems quite possible that in the foreseeable future, perhaps in our lifetimes, most Christians will reject the trinity. Would that change who is a “true Christian”?
That may be, to us. But not to God. We will have to see.
See you next week.

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