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kuresu Member (Idle past 2841 days) Posts: 2544 From: boulder, colorado Joined: |
you're getting more than you asked for, jon.
I ain't even gonna deal with the first paragraph and it's darns and arrogance.
Being human”or more specifically: being anything that makes us not non-human”is a concept which requires distinction, and we must have a way to judge something as human or not”including everything that clearly is human, whilst keeping out everything that clearly is not. half of this is filler. end the sentence at "judge something as human or not".
For the time being, I'm content defining "being human" as being anything that other humans as a whole would accept as human, and in a population-wide sense, being human is simply to do what a group of "being humans" would do collectively”communicate. I know this definition is vague, but it will hopefully suit the purpose. you're right, this is vague. practically everything communicates with other members of their species--inlducing bacteria. so bacteria are now human? congrats, you just defined being human as being practically any organism on this, or other, planet(s). It does not suit your purpose.
Humans are easy, special is not, and finding a definition that will fit for that word will prove even more difficult. crap. shitty sentence. you say the same thing twice "defining special is hard, defining special is hard". what is it with filler?
Remember the things listed in the introduction”which I will not reiterate”were all considered things that made humans special. don't say "which I will not reiterate". pointless statement. scrath "remember".
In other words, "writing" was considered a special quality of something,
um, dude. you can't use writing to define humans, and yet you do shortly after this sentence. (yes, in an abstract way--you don't say it outright, but we wrote out the Endangered Species Act). oh, and where's your definition of "special"? you promised it, I don't see it. at least you gave us a crappy one for being "human".
These things are all considered to be traits that make humans the special species, so much more removed from the rest. But once we see what they are, we see what they say. All of the things in the list are "what humans do." Since "what humans do"”more specifically to do what a group of "being humans" would do”is to "being human," wonderful jon, absolutely wonderful. you defined special by being human and human by being special. what circular logic you have. and didn't you earlier say that being human is defined as "communicating"?now you've contradicted yourself. writing isn't what makes us human, you claim, but then you claim that is makes us special, and because what makes us special is what makes us human, writing makes us human. oops. I do question if I've achieved my goal, or if I've wasted more time in thoughts than in writing. wonderful waste of time
I've hashed this one about down the road now and then . . . I generally find it does the trick and gets those who would disagree with me off my back and out of my hair for a moment; not the purpose of an argument/debate.
With any luck, I'll sooner or later have them all proven wrong. and again with the arrogance. with as crappy an argument you've put forward here, i'm betting it will be a long time before you prove anyone wrong. thanks for the strawman. "Have the Courage to Know!" --Immanuel Kant " . . .and some nights I just pray to the god of sex and drugs and rock'n'roll"--meatloaf Want to help give back to the world community? Did you know that your computer can help? Join the newest TeamEvC Climate Modelling to help improve climate predictions for a better tomorrow.
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kuresu Member (Idle past 2841 days) Posts: 2544 From: boulder, colorado Joined: |
dude, your just paper sucks. there isn't even a point in it. you give multiple definitions of humans, you contradict yourself, and you use circular logic. I would have flunked the paper.
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kuresu Member (Idle past 2841 days) Posts: 2544 From: boulder, colorado Joined: |
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kuresu Member (Idle past 2841 days) Posts: 2544 From: boulder, colorado Joined: |
No, the part behind the em dash is extremely important because it specifies the conditions that a definition must meet. If not for that, I could say: humans are humans. That's a definition, but horrible. The offset bit of text lets the reader know what type of a definition to expect. Whether or not I deliver is a whole different story it's all filler. filler is used when you've got nothing to say.
Do you think humans are special?
yes. you're paper still sucks. you can make a much better argument. try to actually respond to my points, instead of evading or answering just one.
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kuresu Member (Idle past 2841 days) Posts: 2544 From: boulder, colorado Joined: |
never found out the grade I got on this, but I still finished the class with an A-. my other two papers in the class were an A and B. this one was worth over 1/3 my grade.
quote: it's the first two paragraphs in an 10 page paper. notice that's there's actually a clear thesis and a decent introduction. this is much more like college quality writing, jon. Edited by kuresu, : No reason given. Edited by kuresu, : No reason given. "Have the Courage to Know!" --Immanuel Kant " . . .and some nights I just pray to the god of sex and drugs and rock'n'roll"--meatloaf Want to help give back to the world community? Did you know that your computer can help? Join the newest TeamEvC Climate Modelling to help improve climate predictions for a better tomorrow.
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kuresu Member (Idle past 2841 days) Posts: 2544 From: boulder, colorado Joined: |
dude. the thread isn't about my paper. my post was about showing jon what a good paper looks like (as compared to his piece of . . . .).
have to remember, my paper is also about 3 months old. things change. my research was also quite rushed.
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kuresu Member (Idle past 2841 days) Posts: 2544 From: boulder, colorado Joined: |
boring beats confusing any day of the week.
oh, and you might have to shout a little louder, my hearing's bad. (and who said anything about discussing my own writing? I merely offering it as an example of a good paper. Tal was the one who started talking about my paper, bring it way off-topic. And I wasn't being an arrogant self-righteous little twit. just arrogant)
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kuresu Member (Idle past 2841 days) Posts: 2544 From: boulder, colorado Joined: |
i think i got the geography from the CIA factbook. possibly from nationmaster. can't remember now. somewhere I saw them included. (but hey, at least I defined the region I was talking about in terms of countries) (good thing this wasn't for a poly sci class, but a writing class).
ABE:not the only one to screw that up. the paper was peer-reviewed by the whole class (of 18). No one commented on that, including the teacher. kinda proves americans ain't so hot on geography, huh. oh well, live and learn. Edited by kuresu, : No reason given.
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kuresu Member (Idle past 2841 days) Posts: 2544 From: boulder, colorado Joined: |
I'd hate to see what an "F" paper would look like, if your paper got an "A".
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