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Message 51 of 58 (382389)
02-04-2007 2:12 PM
Reply to: Message 48 by ReverendDG
02-04-2007 6:29 AM


Re: not be contrarian
The design of the world is evidence of an Invisible Designer. As Ray says, what more do you want God to do?

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Message 54 of 58 (384246)
02-10-2007 4:47 PM
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02-10-2007 3:46 AM


Re: not be contrarian
Human intelligence is able to design and create and so we can see the properties of what constitutes design, such as order, principles, etc,....
To claim, well, we don't know what God is like so all we can do is compare human intelligence is a sham statement really. We don't really know what gravity is like either, but we know it by it's effects. We see the effects of Intelligence in the design of the universe.
I ask again: what more do you want God to do?
Send Himself as a man, His "Son", down to show us the way, be crucified and rise again? Oh yeah, already did that.
Have millions of people be touched by Him and share that with others?
Oh yeah, already did that.
Give us intelligence and creative abilities so we can see what design is like, and so understand that the world around us contains design?
Oh yeah, already did that.
The properties of design are clear, such as order, and the world demonstrates those properties.

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Message 56 of 58 (384298)
02-10-2007 8:29 PM
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02-10-2007 6:58 PM


evolutionary fashion?
I hear what you are saying, and there is a lot of textual evidence it wasn't a "poof" sort of thing, but to say it was evolutionary, imo, is a stretch.
Maybe, but then again, it's pretty vague. "Let the waters bring forth" sounds like evolution. "Formed from the ground" sounds like ID. "Let us make man..." sounds like special creation.

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Message 58 of 58 (384305)
02-10-2007 8:47 PM
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Re: evolutionary fashion?
well, I was just making a point not so much to argue but to explore the whole concept. It's something that seems a bit ignored by both creationists and evos. The Bible is quite complex and often eludes man's concepts and limitations.

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