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Author Topic:   What specific evidence would people require to believe in God's existence?
ReverendDG
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Message 76 of 222 (328404)
07-03-2006 3:39 AM
Reply to: Message 69 by rgb
06-27-2006 3:46 AM


Hmm, no i think part of it may have sorta been that way, but i said the reasons why is the conflict between accepting a concept but being told to question it all, if it seems that way it, oh well - you didn't have to read it

"The Bible says, seek and you shall find. The problem is most people aren't interested in knowing the truth because it's much easier to believe (and tell) lies especially when it's been passed down from your parent's parents." - ChristIsTHEKing, Christian Forums

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Greatest I am
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Message 77 of 222 (381289)
01-30-2007 2:14 PM


Belief
The only thing that will make believers out of non believers is either miracles or a recognition of the Perfection of the systems that God has set in place for us to live in. I should add that a direct communication also does the trick.
Regards
DL

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Hawkins
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Message 78 of 222 (381435)
01-30-2007 11:12 PM


You will be filled up with the Holy Spirit, you will be somewhat "synchronized" will Him. Then, if He's willing to contact you, you will be able to go through the following process;
willed-wait-instructed-dictated-inspired-wrote-done-approved
when you think you can communicate with Him this way, let me know how you feel. Hehe...
approved =
sometimes you will be able to ask for a miracle to occur. Alternatively, you may prophecise and He will make it come true. Sometimes, you just raise your doubts and you are going to see miracles, and "prophecies" you made unintentionally.
When you encountered these, just let me know. By then, you will be able to tell me something about His characteristics.
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Kader
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Message 79 of 222 (381708)
02-01-2007 6:35 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by mjfloresta
06-15-2006 12:21 AM


Evidence for God can only come from God.
So anything that only an omnipotent and omniscient being could do.
The list is long.

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Chiroptera
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Message 80 of 222 (381716)
02-01-2007 7:05 PM
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01-30-2007 2:14 PM


Re: Belief
quote:
...a recognition of the Perfection of the systems that God has set in place for us to live in.
So a recognition that the systems aren't perfect should lead us to what conclusion? That God doesn't exist, or that she wishes to hide her existence?

This world can take my money and time/ But it sure can't take my soul. -- Joe Ely

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RAZD
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Message 81 of 222 (381761)
02-01-2007 9:38 PM
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01-30-2007 2:14 PM


Re: Belief
I should add that a direct communication also does the trick.
So the insane asylum is proof of god.
Thanks.

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Message 82 of 222 (381787)
02-01-2007 10:08 PM
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02-01-2007 7:05 PM


Re: Belief
She would not hide forever.
I challenge you to name one imperfect system in our greater reality.
Nothing personal because we all have a specific purpose assigned by God. That would not be fair.
Regards
DL

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DrJones*
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Message 83 of 222 (381736)
02-01-2007 9:06 PM
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02-01-2007 10:08 PM


Re: Belief
I challenge you to name one imperfect system in our greater reality.
DNA replication

Just a monkey in a long line of kings.
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist!
*not an actual doctor

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jar
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Message 84 of 222 (381738)
02-01-2007 9:07 PM
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02-01-2007 10:08 PM


Re: Belief
I challenge you to name one imperfect system in our greater reality.
Replication.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Greatest I am
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Message 85 of 222 (381741)
02-01-2007 9:09 PM
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02-01-2007 9:06 PM


Re: Belief
I know of DNA it is a wonderfully functioning system.
Regards
DL

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Message 86 of 222 (381744)
02-01-2007 9:12 PM
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02-01-2007 9:07 PM


Re: Belief
Replecation is working.
Perfection might not like this system though. I think it might bite us back.
Regards
DL

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DrJones*
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Message 87 of 222 (381748)
02-01-2007 9:18 PM
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02-01-2007 9:09 PM


Re: Belief
I know of DNA it is a wonderfully functioning system.
It may wonderfully functioning but its not perfect. You asked for an imperfect system, I gave you one.

Just a monkey in a long line of kings.
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist!
*not an actual doctor

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jar
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Message 88 of 222 (381751)
02-01-2007 9:23 PM
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02-01-2007 9:12 PM


Total Nonsense and Dancin Goal Posts.
Replecation is working.
Perfection might not like this system though. I think it might bite us back.
Regards
DL
You asked for a non-perfect system. Replication works because it is Imperfect.
Don't think we allow Goal Post Dancin' without it being noted.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Message 89 of 222 (381753)
02-01-2007 9:26 PM
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02-01-2007 9:18 PM


Re: Belief
It has served us well for 30,000 years. that is perfect enough for this boy.
I did say larger systems.
The point has been made for our purposes here.
Not being an expert on everything, if someone does come up with some one-upmanship. I wont care.
Regards
DL

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DrJones*
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Message 90 of 222 (381754)
02-01-2007 9:28 PM
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02-01-2007 9:26 PM


Re: Belief
It has served us well for 30,000 years. that is perfect enough for this boy.
Again, yeah it's pretty nice but it aint perfect. Nice move of the goal posts.
I did say larger systems
And the foundation of life as we know it is not a large system?
Edited by DrJones*, : No reason given.

Just a monkey in a long line of kings.
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist!
*not an actual doctor

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