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Author Topic:   Will The Real God Please Stand Up?
Malachi-II
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Message 91 of 364 (379806)
01-25-2007 2:26 PM
Reply to: Message 77 by Phat
01-25-2007 8:23 AM


Re: I am late but I am here if you chose to have faith
You are asking the real God to stand up. Sorry, but I do not have legs on which to stand. I do not have physical features that you would recognize. Sadly, whenever you attempt to define my being, someone perceives something different. Yet I am the same primary cause as in the beginning. I do not exist in your definition of the word. I have been perceived by mortals throughout the ages who, by letting go of their intellect, discovered how evident I Am.
Who Am I ?
I am the temporary resident of mortal flesh
I am the consciousness of the nervous system that regulates and maintains mortal flesh
I am the sensitivity corresponding with the elements that constitute mortal flesh
I am the awareness of manifestations that extend far beyond mortal flesh
I am one with the emanating force of all that is, was, and ever shall be
I am the web of thought and vibration that fill the universe
I am the memory of the universe that is available to all
I am the imagination of discovery and invention
I am the inspiration of creative expression
I am the eternal perpetuation of life
I am love, the beginning of life
I am the all and everything
I am that I Am

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ringo
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Message 92 of 364 (379813)
01-25-2007 2:48 PM
Reply to: Message 91 by Malachi-II
01-25-2007 2:26 PM


Re: I am late but I am here if you chose to have faith
Malaci-II writes:
I do not have legs on which to stand. I do not have physical features that you would recognize.
I am the temporary resident of mortal flesh
You contradict yourself.

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Kader
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Message 93 of 364 (379815)
01-25-2007 2:49 PM
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01-25-2007 2:48 PM


Re: I am late but I am here if you chose to have faith
God is a synonym to contradiction

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Message 94 of 364 (379818)
01-25-2007 2:52 PM
Reply to: Message 83 by Archer Opteryx
01-25-2007 11:02 AM


Re: the party at the hospital
Archer Opterix writes:
The self-abusive woman had an idea for a costume that involved cutting off her head and carrying it to the party under her arm.
That would be a hell of a costume if it wasn't for the logisitc problems.
We could try that as an option to my "shoot 'em all" proposal. Cut off all their heads and see Who rises on the third day.

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Archer Opteryx
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Message 95 of 364 (379823)
01-25-2007 3:09 PM
Reply to: Message 91 by Malachi-II
01-25-2007 2:26 PM


Re: I am late but I am yada
That's actually rather lovely, Malachi II.
I especially enjoyed this bit of pantheism:
I am the all and everything
Are you familiar with the epiphany scene in the Gita? You'd like it.
_____
Edited by Archer Opterix, : typo repair.

Archer
All species are transitional.

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anastasia
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Message 96 of 364 (379824)
01-25-2007 3:09 PM
Reply to: Message 88 by kuresu
01-25-2007 1:59 PM


Re: Can I tell the truth, Jesus?
kuresu writes:
If I'm parroting others, I honestly don't know who.
No, sorry, I meant you copy what others here have said. You still throw in a healthy dose of personal prose, so just ignore me.
And no, sorry again, I don't think you have similar ideas to the people I mentioned. If I hear you have suddenly purchased a one-way ticket to a leper colony I will reconsider.
Edited by anastasia, : No reason given.

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Archer Opteryx
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Message 97 of 364 (379832)
01-25-2007 3:18 PM
Reply to: Message 94 by ringo
01-25-2007 2:52 PM


Re: the party at the hospital
quote:
The self-abusive woman had an idea for a costume that involved cutting off her head and carrying it to the party under her arm.
Ringo:
That would be a hell of a costume if it wasn't for the logistical problems.
It only leaves you one arm to carry all your stuff at the buffet table.
But your head is closer to the food, so maybe everything balances out.
___

Archer
All species are transitional.

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Rob 
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Message 98 of 364 (379964)
01-25-2007 10:46 PM
Reply to: Message 90 by Kader
01-25-2007 2:03 PM


Re: Can I tell the truth, Jesus?
where you witht the ones screaming the end of the world is coming back then roughly 7 years ago?
No... but I do agree with the ones who have said we are living in the last days for the last 1900+ years.
Because they believed it pretty hard. And guess what, the world didn't end.
But it will... 2nd law of thermodynamics (a Scientific fact). Jesus said no man knows the hour... I believe Him (and good science).
Your faith is not the truth.
Are you stating that as an absolute truth?
It might be to you, but if your a sensible man, you must accept that you might be wrong.
And vice versa...
To stay on topic, all im saying is you cannot deny other the right to have faith in something else.
What about that truth is absolute? Will you deny them that? And will you deny them the right to say it?
Because faith isn't BACKED UP by any hard scientific evidence. It is something we believe to be true, but it is something that can BE WRONG
Ah... So science is the truth. Science is all about testing and experiment. And Christianity can be tested. If you ask for forgiveness with sincerity, Jesus promises to come to us and make His home, and open our eyes.
He does. I only know because He did for me after I took the little leap of faith.
And when He does, no one can tell you it is just faith. Because at that point it is experience (root word 'experimental').

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Rob 
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Message 99 of 364 (379965)
01-25-2007 10:48 PM
Reply to: Message 92 by ringo
01-25-2007 2:48 PM


Re: I am late but I am here if you chose to have faith
Well at least you're an equal opportunity doubter... I'll give you that.

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Phat
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Message 100 of 364 (379978)
01-26-2007 12:08 AM
Reply to: Message 89 by kuresu
01-25-2007 2:02 PM


Meeting adjourned until further notice?
kuresu writes:
I'm actually going to move for a temporary adjournment of the meeting--the time we come back shall be decided after this movement passes.
I can't close it as AdminPhat because it would be a conflict of interest. Another Admin may elect to close this topic for at least 3 days.
Allow me to broaden the O.P. Any God is eligible for consideration.
To qualify, the deity needs to have been mentioned by five other independent sources apart from the member nominating said Deity.

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iceage 
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Message 101 of 364 (379979)
01-26-2007 12:10 AM
Reply to: Message 98 by Rob
01-25-2007 10:46 PM


Re: Can I tell the truth, Jesus?
rob writes:
Ah... So science is the truth.
Let's just say based on historical trends that science has a better track record than religion.
rob writes:
Science is all about testing and experiment. And Christianity can be tested. If you ask for forgiveness with sincerity, Jesus promises to come to us and make His home, and open our eyes.
Science quantifies things. How does one measure, quantify and report forgiveness? What units are you using?
rob writes:
I only know because He did for me after I took the little leap of faith.
The ole little leap of faith eh? And if you lived in a Muslim dominated society you would have leaped into Islam.
-rob writes:
And when He does, no one can tell you it is just faith. Because at that point it is experience (root word 'experimental').
Nice attempt to equate your faith with science but it does not fly. Delusion is also experience. Experience in this sense is not experimental in a scientific sense.

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Rob 
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Message 102 of 364 (379981)
01-26-2007 12:24 AM
Reply to: Message 101 by iceage
01-26-2007 12:10 AM


Re: Can I tell the truth, Jesus?
The ole little leap of faith eh? And if you lived in a Muslim dominated society you would have leaped into Islam.
Now that is just insulting and patently strawmanish.
Human beings are capable and 'bent' toward rebellion. In it's proper place, rebellion is healthy. Rebellion for rebellions sake is simple cynicism and leaves nothing to rebel against other than rebellion itself.
I rebelled against the faith of my parents. And they gave me the freedom to do that. A freedom they knew God gave them. If there is no God, there is no freedom for we can only do what we are programmed to do. God is the option out! Without Him, I'm afraid your stuck with yourself. And speaking for myself, that sucks! But maybe your one of those who likes... (if you'll pardon the expression) sucking on himself?
I didn't become a Christian to win a poularity contest or jump on the concensus bandwagon of modern conventional wisdom and science.
Your projecting your own weakness!
Believing anything takes a leap o faith. But if you take the leap towards Christianity, yu'll have to give up some things... like friends, family, and acceptance in a culture that will mock you and in some cases hate you.
You better stay where you are. Your not strong enough. Now Loki has a hip cult following... there's your salvation!
Edited by Rob, : No reason given.

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anastasia
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Message 103 of 364 (379984)
01-26-2007 12:41 AM
Reply to: Message 102 by Rob
01-26-2007 12:24 AM


Re: Can I tell the truth, Jesus?
Rob writes:
I rebelled against the faith of my parents. And they gave me the freedom to do that.
So you have rebelled against christianity?

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Archer Opteryx
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Message 104 of 364 (379990)
01-26-2007 1:12 AM
Reply to: Message 100 by Phat
01-26-2007 12:08 AM


Re: Meeting adjourned until further notice?
I'm fine if Phat as OP author wants to revise the premise a bit and Phat or some other Admin gives the thread a few days to lie fallow while he comes up with something.
How does everyone else feel?

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anastasia
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Message 105 of 364 (379993)
01-26-2007 1:29 AM
Reply to: Message 104 by Archer Opteryx
01-26-2007 1:12 AM


Re: Meeting adjourned until further notice?
Archer writes:
How does everyone else feel?
To be honest, this thread is not flowing in an orderly court-room fashion. Some would-be gods are getting more attention than others. I vote to eliminate the Purple Flying Spaghetti Monster thing, unless he has a reason for being here, and possibly Sophia since she seems to be swallowed up by many other gods. I would replace with Mother Earth, Gaia, or some similar entity.

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