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elcano Member (Idle past 4554 days) Posts: 60 From: Moscow Joined: |
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elcano Member (Idle past 4554 days) Posts: 60 From: Moscow Joined: |
Date on a monument from Torre del Greco is on December, 16th, 1631
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elcano Member (Idle past 4554 days) Posts: 60 From: Moscow Joined: |
The reference leave please.
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AdminNosy Administrator Posts: 4755 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada Joined: |
The reference leave please. What do you mean?
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elcano Member (Idle past 4554 days) Posts: 60 From: Moscow Joined: |
See Message 47
Only 18 century gives us such data.
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elcano Member (Idle past 4554 days) Posts: 60 From: Moscow Joined: |
Thanks for translation, but you have translated only the first part. I have resulted the second part in the message 49. (but in French) Please translate this part, differently it will clean.
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anastasia Member (Idle past 6255 days) Posts: 1857 From: Bucks County, PA Joined: |
elcano writes: Date on a monument from Torre del Greco is on December, 16th, 1631 We already talked about this...it was your first post, remember? We all know Vesuvius erupted in 1631.
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elcano Member (Idle past 4554 days) Posts: 60 From: Moscow Joined: |
The text can be cleaned, but to leave as it to find.
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anastasia Member (Idle past 6255 days) Posts: 1857 From: Bucks County, PA Joined: |
elcano writes: Thanks for translation, but you have translated only the first part. I have resulted the second part in the message 49. (but in French) Please translate this part, differently it will clean. It has been translated twice already, once by me and once by RAZD. I am not sure what the point is, elcano. If you want to prove that Vesuvius only erupted once then don't give references from a man who went looking for an ancient Roman city. Just tell us already what your point is. Edited by anastasia, : No reason given.
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Admin Director Posts: 13125 From: EvC Forum Joined: |
Hi Elcano,
We recognize that English is a second language for you, and even realize that it is possible that you don't know English at all and are just using a translation program, but that doesn't relieve you of certain responsibilities. My concerns had settled down as it was beginning to appear that a dialogue with you was possible, but your recent very short and very cryptic responses have raised my concern levels again. In the future please follow these suggestions when composing a message:
EvC Forum encourages rational and informed discussion. In order to stay here you must demonstrate that this is within your capabilities.
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elcano Member (Idle past 4554 days) Posts: 60 From: Moscow Joined: |
The Neapolitan kingdom in 17 century is not Italian. It belongs to Spain. In what language wrote official documents (laws) we does not know.
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elcano Member (Idle past 4554 days) Posts: 60 From: Moscow Joined: |
You seriously think, that the monument to victims of eruption of 1631 is a monument on events by an event 1500 years ago.
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Percy Member Posts: 23087 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 6.3 |
elcano writes: The Neapolitan kingdom in 17 century is not Italian. It belongs to Spain. In what language wrote official documents (laws) we does not know. I don't know about that, or even whether the language of official documents is important, since it's the predominant language used by the inhabitants that is significant here, but whatever language it was, it wasn't Latin, which was a dead language by the 17th century. The language of excavated Pompeii was Latin. Your point also contains a fallacy. While France and Spain battled over control of the Naples region from the 14th century onwards, this had little influence on the language used by the inhabitants, which was a dialect of Italian. When William the Conqueror put England under the control of France in 1066, England did not suddenly become a French speaking country. In the same way, as control by France and Spain ebbed and flowed, the language spoken by the inhabitants also did not change, certainly not in any significant way. --Percy
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anastasia Member (Idle past 6255 days) Posts: 1857 From: Bucks County, PA Joined: |
elcano writes: The Neapolitan kingdom in 17 century is not Italian. It belongs to Spain. In what language wrote official documents (laws) we does not know Sicily was split between French possession of the mainland and Spanish possession of the Island...but it doesn't mean anything as 'evidence'. Even if part of Sicily was ruled by France, it doesn't mean everyone suddenly spoke French. The point is, the city found which we call Pompeii, had no French, Spanish, Italian, only Latin. Sure, it is possible to find a 17th century document written in Latin...but come on. You want us to believe that they were all speaking Latin AND living in Roman buildings in 1631?
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anastasia Member (Idle past 6255 days) Posts: 1857 From: Bucks County, PA Joined: |
elcano writes: You seriously think, that the monument to victims of eruption of 1631 is a monument on events by an event 1500 years ago. I never said that, elcano. The monument is about the event of 1631, and about the men who were able to clear the roads. But I feel very confident in saying that Herculaenum for one did not exist in 1631, and that your monument is only making a reference to the past eruption. Do YOU seriously believe that all of our archaelogists totally forgot about this monument that 'proves' Vesuvius never erupted before? There must be millions of tourists at the Via Nazionale every year.
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