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Author Topic:   Destruction of Pompei is 1631 year.
RAZD
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Message 7 of 132 (377200)
01-15-2007 2:24 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by elcano
01-13-2007 6:48 PM


Carbon-14 does NOT rely on vesuvius at ALL
All data on 14C are based on the assumption, that Pompeii were lost in 79 year.
Absolutely false.
The current calibration curve for carbon-14 dating is discussed in detail at INTCAL04 TERRESTRIAL RADIOCARBON AGE CALIBRATION, 0-26 CAL KYR BP
Please read the article and cite any reference to vesuvius.
Carbon-14 dating is based on the radioactive decay of the atmospheric carbon-14 atoms taken up by living organisms while they were growing.
Calibrations and verifications of the method are based on many sources, and the overall correlations are discussed in the above paper. Historical documents that are not exact on date are not good enough for this work, it is based on systems that produce known dates, such as annual tree-rings and the like.
What you have is a fantasy. Whether you are open to being wrong is up to you, but I note:
delusion” -noun
1. an act or instance of deluding.
2. the state of being deluded.
3. a false belief or opinion: delusions of grandeur.
4. Psychiatry. a fixed false belief that is resistant to reason or confrontation with actual fact: a paranoid delusion.
The choice is yours.
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Message 27 of 132 (377251)
01-15-2007 6:57 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by elcano
01-15-2007 3:29 PM


Re: Carbon-14 does NOT rely on vesuvius at ALL
All you have done is restate your position. This is not substantiation for your position or refutation of what I posted.
If all you can do is repeat your position then there is absolutely no point in discussing anything with you.
Your point is refuted by the evidence that says otherwise.
Until you deal with that fact you are in denial.
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Message 56 of 132 (377443)
01-16-2007 7:08 PM
Reply to: Message 55 by anastasia
01-16-2007 6:09 PM


Re: Translate or don't post
did you use babelfish?
quote:
We however see reappearing the names of Pompéi, Herculanum and Stabies in works quite former to their discovery. One reads in the history written in IXe century by the Martin monk that in 838, Sicard, prince de Bénévent, camped with its army in Pompeio campo which has Pompeia urbe Campania nunc deserta nomen accepit. Since 1488, Niccolo Perotto makes mention of these cities in its Cornucopia; Sannazar speaks about Pompéi in its Arcadia (Prosa, XII), whose first edition appeared in 1504; in the chart of Ambrogio Leone, 1513, one finds marked with the place that Portici Herculaneum Oppidum occupies; Leandro Alberti (Descrizione di tutta Italia, 1561) points out the towns of Herculanum, Pompéi and Stabies, buried by Vesuvius, indicating the site where at that time one believed that they had existed; in Historia Neapolitana de Giulio Cesare Capaccio, published in 1607, one reads a chapter devoted to antiquities of Herculanum; Camillo Pellegrino (Apparato alle antichit di Capua, 1651) known as, while speaking about the town of Herculanum, which one thinks that it occupied the current site of Torre del Greco; the gazetteer of Baudran, 1682, mentions the destroyed cities; in 1688, Francesco Bolzano published Antico Ercolano ovvero Torre del Greco tolta dall' obblio, admittedly placing Herculanum in a place very different from true; finally in 1689, an excavation made on the site of Pompéi made find some fragments of locks and a stone where word POMPEI was read; only one concludes from it that there was a villa of Pumped.
color for emphasis. ... reads a lot like elcano ...
I like the last one . I agree that this refers to the cities as destroyed and to their likely locations

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Message 60 of 132 (377506)
01-17-2007 8:07 AM
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01-17-2007 12:14 AM


Re: Translate or don't post
RAZD writes:
did you use babelfish?
I just googled the name 'Sicard, prince of Benevent' and found the reference by the author Breton which elcano cited. Looks like we both got the same whacy one;
I used the original quote and ran it through the babelfish translator
Yahoo
google also offers "translate this page" on many foreign language sites.
There is a shift from Fomenko's idea of Vesuvius being Sinai, to Aetna being Sinai.
So we are dealing with a cult that believes everything we know is false. Not just science but recorded history as well.

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Message 101 of 132 (378049)
01-19-2007 11:59 AM
Reply to: Message 100 by anastasia
01-18-2007 4:07 PM


Re: Pliny the Younger.
The cities were clearly not 'lost' in 1631, they were cleared and rebuilt.
Nobody died in 1631. Bodies were buried in the ash in 79. They made casts of the cavities left by the bodies when they did the excavations.
http://www.jamesmdeem.com/books.ashbodies.htm
The Streets of Pompeii - Photos of the Roman City
Home - Auckland War Memorial Museum
The Project Gutenberg eBook of The Wonders of Pompeii, by Marc Monnier..
Curiously none are wearing 1631 clothes.
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