In an earlier thread, a member asked to see a hypothetical chain (between major groups, like class or order) consistent with the fossil record. In other words, drawings of creatures from a fish (say, a lobe finned fish) through intermediates like Tiktaalik, and Ichthyostega, through an amphibian, to say an early reptile like Dimetrodon. It only has to be plausible (consistent with the fossil record)- not that we have to know for sure exactly that this is the actual descendant.
With such a question, we should have provided a ton of very useful and clear pictures. I find it embarrassing as a scientist, educator, and evolution supporter that we don't have these on the sides of buses, not to mention available in discussion here.
This is not a thread for talking about how we can’t know exact ancestry (which isn’t needed in this case anyway), nor about how evolution produces trees or bushes (which is irrelevant, since a chain will still exist behind each organism that has ever lived, all the way from a redwood to it's gggggreat grandfather bacterium).
Instead, this is a thread for discussing and even finding/making good chains. Also (as a person with the computer skills of a Neanderthal), I'd like to find out what we can do to make these generally accessible. I also am very busy, so I'll contribute and help as I can.
Some for starters:
1. There is a video version on the Cosmos series. I'll find out which episode.
2. The whale series on post #54 here http://
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3. Hominids
29+ Evidences for Macroevolution: Part 1 (also, jaw series there is good).
4. fish to mammal (Jaw/Ear focus) (page down to where it says "inner ear bones"
http://www-rohan.sdsu.edu/...iller/chordates2/Chordates2.htm5. Horse feet:
Bpeah.com is for sale | HugeDomains6. Another video version is in the movie "Mission to Mars", though someone could do a lot better if they wanted to.
7. Another video version is that Bud commercial that was shown only in Europe and not in the US due to worries about fundy reactions to evolution. Again, someone could do a lot better (and more accurately).
RAZD, thanks for suggesting this start. I didn't attach the pictures since I didn't see copyright permssion, but did provide links above. (Mods, feel free to insert pictures if we have copyright permission or whatever we need).
What is our next step to get a bunch of these, especially detailed ones showing many steps (even without fossils for all of them), and make them accessible? Maybe some kind of wiki format? Hosted where? Is there already one that I don't know about?
Which forum? Maybe Biological Evolution?
Thanks all-
Edited by Equinox, : Added suggested forum.
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